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X3D and marketting ******** "best cpu for gaming"

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Another CPU for you to have a moan about OP. :D
 

Another CPU for you to have a moan about OP. :D


or this

 
We’ve never seen CPUs where gaming performance is a primary focus before. X3D parts are new product segment. There has always been trade offs, there has never been single best chip.

In the past if you spent out on the most expensive desktop CPU at the time you'd get chart topping performance across the board (with maybe some tiny exceptions) maybe losing out to HEDT/Server CPUs for pure multi-threaded performance but that is another story really. Last few years if you bought the most expensive CPU it does not guarantee you will get chart topping performance in any given task, far from it in some cases.

Now what the best CPU is for someone very much comes down to taking a finer look at where performance matters to you and you may have to make a compromise for the best balance of performance or if necessary have more than one system to maximise performance for your complete range of tasks in a way which wasn't necessary for most of CPU history.

Even in gaming what is the best can depend quite a bit on what you do - i.e. for someone who multi-boxes MMO clients the 9800X3D may actually be a poor choice compared to say Intel higher end parts or the 9950X. For someone who is gaming at higher resolution and settings on a upper mid-range card they likely won't see much benefit from the X3D CPUs compared to someone who was say doing e-Sports and trying to drive 1080p with "lowpro" settings for a 300Hz monitor and/or using a 5090.
 
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Another CPU for you to have a moan about OP. :D
op starts a thread about how much x3d is apparantly pointless
someone replies with something that makes me want an x3d even more than i already did
yeah checks out lol
 
Ho by the way if you sell your 5800x3D to an AM4 sticker, with the money you can nearly buy a full am5 platform with a 9600X and be ready for the next gen of ryzens

I tell you X3D are overpriced see ?
 
In the past if you spent out on the most expensive desktop CPU at the time you'd get chart topping performance across the board (with maybe some tiny exceptions) maybe losing out to HEDT/Server CPUs for pure multi-threaded performance but that is another story really. Last few years if you bought the most expensive CPU it does not guarantee you will get chart topping performance in any given task, far from it in some cases.

Now what the best CPU is for someone very much comes down to taking a finer look at where performance matters to you and you may have to make a compromise for the best balance of performance or if necessary have more than one system to maximise performance for your complete range of tasks in a way which wasn't necessary for most of CPU history.

Even in gaming what is the best can depend quite a bit on what you do - i.e. for someone who multi-boxes MMO clients the 9800X3D may actually be a poor choice compared to say Intel higher end parts or the 9950X. For someone who is gaming at higher resolution and settings on a upper mid-range card they likely won't see much benefit from the X3D CPUs compared to someone who was say doing e-Sports and trying to drive 1080p with "lowpro" settings for a 300Hz monitor and/or using a 5090.

In the past we had very limited options and nothing where gaming performance was engineered and developed for. What we have now is a much broader market and much greater choice. What you’re seeing now is technology driving innovation, allowing for more defined options and products. The CPU market has never been healthier than its is just now.
 
In the past we had very limited options and nothing where gaming performance was engineered and developed for. What we have now is a much broader market and much greater choice. What you’re seeing now is technology driving innovation, allowing for more defined options and products. The CPU market has never been healthier than its is just now.

Never heard of features like 3DNow!, MMX, etc.?
 
Never heard of features like 3DNow!, MMX, etc.?

The innovation we’re seeing is lot more elegant than a bit of smart code. Those techniques didn’t make for fastest single either.

CPU development is booming right now and we’re all the better for it. Products now succeeded or fail based their technical merits.
 
The innovation we’re seeing is lot more elegant than a bit of smart code. Those techniques didn’t make for fastest single either.

CPU development is booming right now and we’re all the better for it. Products now succeeded or fail based their technical merits.

That doesn't change the fact the CPU market is in a horrible place currently where you can't just buy the most expensive product any get the best performance in any area and/or if you have more varied needs there might not be a good CPU or good compromise for those needs.
 
Never heard of features like 3DNow!, MMX, etc.?
Oooh I remember the MMX adverts when I was at Uni. Only had a 486 at the time whilst others were spending silly money on the 586 with MMX. I think the adverts had little animated games characters coming out of the chips. I think the chips were around £400 back then which makes my 9800X3D seem like a bargain if we consider inflation etc.
 
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Another CPU for you to have a moan about OP. :D

If AMD release these chips, the streets of Paris are going to get plastered in piping hot soft cheese aren’t they… I can see it now… people losing their minds (and shoes) bits of baguette and onions everywhere…
 
Am I reading this thread correctly?

"My CPU does what I need it to do for cheaper than X3D.

So that means X3D is a scam.

Also I feel personally attacked by the X3D marketing and reviews."

Or am I missing some nuance that has got lost in translation?
 
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