Is it time to ban LED Headlights

I know I have tried as best as possible not to drive at night on roads I'm not familiar with, due to the amount of times I've been temporarily blinded by oncoming vehicles.

It maybe just that as you get older the effect is worse on your eyes but it is a much more tense drive on the odd occasion when I have to.
 
bigmike20vt said:
however there are so many issues on the road. on the way to wimpole farm on Sunday one of the roads there was so ludicrously uneven , on coming cars were bouncing all over the place and even with dipped lights they were dazzling.
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Been that way since I was a wee lad at least. Similar to fenland, the roads just sink over time.
 
I’ve said my piece on this subject but something else:

I get flashed with my headlights on dipped, frequently. I don’t think they’re too high, but will be taking the car back into Cupra to check.

The Matrix headlights are horse ****. Always get flashed, just doesn’t react quick enough. I just don’t use it anymore, moved back to manual main beam like a peasant.
 
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Yaayuh! said:
I’ve said my piece on this subject but something else:

I get flashed with my headlights on dipped, frequently. I don’t think they’re too high, but will be taking the car back into Cupra to check.

The Matrix headlights are horse ****. Always get flashed, just doesn’t react quick enough. I just don’t use it anymore, moved back to manual main beam like a peasant.
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Just wait until you see the bill when you have to replace one :P
 
bigmike20vt said:
how do you decide if a person is being dazzled because the lights are objectively too bright vs people staring straight at them rather than looking past them, or just having eye conditions which means they are over senstive.
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You get a car fitted with special instruments to measure how much light then drive it around, while transport scientists look at the data and publish a study... which is what they're doing.

It doesn't matter exactly where people happen to be looking at the moment the glare hits them - They will be looking wherever they have to in order to see the road hazards around them.
Case in point, approaching a junction on my left, I will be looking down the line of oncoming traffic to see if anyone is indicating to turn into it. If you're at the front of that traffic with **** off bright headlights, I won't be able to see any of the vehicles behind you - Where do you suggest I look, if not where I need to?

bigmike20vt said:
i just dont think you can say person X finds LEDs more dazzling than the lights from a standard bulb from a car 30 years ago therefore LED lights are bad.
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That is what they're saying, because it's a simple version of the more technical explanation involving lumen output, candela measurements, focus alignment and other factors... all of which still say the same - LEDs are up to 11 times 'brighter' than previous headlight versions... and it makes driving more dangerous, hence bad.

[TW]Fox said:
Because first we need to work out whether they really are more dangerous, or whether most of this is just caused by peoples perception rather than reality. Look at Mikes post above and you'll see there is far more to this.
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I'm driving. Suddenly I can't see clearly enough to be safe. Is that dangerous? Is it only dangerous if I crash and kill someone?

[TW]Fox said:
The idea that nobody was ever blinded by a headlight before about 2015 doesn't seem credible and doesn't appear to be reflected in the available accident statistics, which if anything are showing a reduction in this sort of incident not an increase.
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900lm vs up to 10,000lm though. A mere 1000lm is enough to cause permanent damage to the human eye
It's not that no-one was ever blinded, but that more people are being blinded more often... unless you're calling them all liars and it's just in their head?
 
Yaayuh! said:
Thankfully it’s covered under warranty and I’ll not own it outside of this.
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I wouldn't either. Though a warranty won't help if it gets damaged. A bit of depreciation and one gets damaged along with some bumper damage...it's getting written off lol

This nonsense is why I run a cheap commuter. If it gets bumped I don't have to care to much.
 
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One thing that does make driving at night lethal, in general, is having the street lights turn off to 'save the planet' :rolleyes:
Especially when driving a halogen car in poor weather, and if a modern car comes the other way, it's very sketchy!
I don't see why they bother doing this with street lights, it's not like we turn off London, Times Square, Japan, China etc etc, and having modern LED's using **** all power in a street light, isn't a big deal?
 
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ttaskmaster said:
I'm driving. Suddenly I can't see clearly enough to be safe. Is that dangerous? Is it only dangerous if I crash and kill someone?
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Could you see clearly when someone didn't bother to switch off their halogen main beam?

Or are you suggesting you cannot see clearly enough to be safe when any car manufactured in the last decade passes you on dipped beam? That seems like it might be an exaggeration...
 
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deviation said:
One thing that does make driving at night lethal, in general, is having the street lights turn off to 'save the planet' :rolleyes:
Especially when driving a halogen car in poor weather, and if a modern car comes the other way, it's very sketchy!
I don't see why they bother doing this with street lights, it's not like we turn off London, Times Square, Japan, China etc etc, and having modern LED's using **** all power in a street light, isn't a big deal?
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Or that a lot of towns replaced street lights with LEDs a few years back, which are now already reaching the end of their life and flashing like a strobe :/
 
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I'd love to get a nice big roof-mounted LED bar on my car to blind drivers who drive around with their main beams on. Rear facing too, for those vans that sit 30mm away from your arse with their main beams on trying to bully me out the way.

Mate it's a dual carriageway, I'm already doing 30mph, leave me alone :mad:
 
Diddums said:
I'd love to get a nice big roof-mounted LED bar on my car to blind drivers who drive around with their main beams on. Rear facing too, for those vans that sit 30mm away from your arse with their main beams on trying to bully me out the way.

Mate it's a dual carriageway, I'm already doing 30mph, leave me alone :mad:
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Naa, we live in violent times

 
Diddums said:
I'd love to get a nice big roof-mounted LED bar on my car to blind drivers who drive around with their main beams on. Rear facing too, for those vans that sit 30mm away from your arse with their main beams on trying to bully me out the way.

Mate it's a dual carriageway, I'm already doing 30mph, leave me alone :mad:
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If it's a dual carriageway, what's to say there's two lanes available for overtakes? ;)
 
Diddums said:
I'd love to get a nice big roof-mounted LED bar on my car to blind drivers who drive around with their main beams on. Rear facing too, for those vans that sit 30mm away from your arse with their main beams on trying to bully me out the way.

Mate it's a dual carriageway, I'm already doing 30mph, leave me alone :mad:
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*depending on the dual carriage way* to be fair i would probably be a bit cheesed off if someone was pootling along at 30mph. (though i still wouldnt tailgate them to make a point)
 
Anyone tailgating me just finds themselves going even slower until they get the message and back off. I'm retired so have no particular hurry to be anywhere. I've got alllll day.
 
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