Proof Read My Cover Letter please

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Sounds to me like British society seems to have evolved to a point where people are judged based on vain self-marketing skills as opposed to real skills, and this thread highlights that well.

The 'real skill' the employer will be looking for in this case is the ability to write a convincing and appropriate application. If he was really looking for something vain and self-important then I imagine your letter would be just the ticket! :)
 
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Not sure if you posted it, im to lazy to go threw the posts :p

But can we see your portfolio? because that lyrics site in your sig (if thats yours) is awfull
 
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If I'm so wrong would you care to explain exactly what makes Indesign different from how I described it? If you are going to make an accusation you should at least back it up with something more than opinion.

Indesign is a desktop publishing software application

Photoshop is a professional image editing application

Indesign ≠ A fancy version of Photoshop
 
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If I'm so wrong would you care to explain exactly what makes Indesign different from how I described it? If you are going to make an accusation you should at least back it up with something more than opinion.

Why would he bother, you have shown a lack of respect to the very people you asked for help and you've shown a lack of respect in your application.
 
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You ask for a proof read, there are loads of errors which we point out, then you flame us for pointing out mistakes you wanted us to find?

I think you're just making yourself think that none of the problems will affect your chances to make yourself feel better and give yourself false hope that you might actually get the job.
 
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Im bored so: both programs share the same GUI as stated before due to them both being part of the Adobe Creative Suite. This is where their similarities end.

Photoshop is used primarily for image retouching and creation, this is all it really should be used for in a professional context. This covers many aspects such as photo retouching through to full on digital paintings. It should NOT be used for layouts or typography.

Indesign is used primarily for layouts, typography and publishing. The way in which images work in these programs are entirely different and their outputs are also different. To say that Indesign is a clone of photoshop with templates demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of both programs and shows that you cannot use either to their potential.

This is not an opinion, it is fact, I am a graphic designer and used both of these programs in a professional environment everyday.
 
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What a dick. Next time don't ask for help if you don't want it, good luck in your job hunt.

*Edit - ROFL the fact that you think you can grasp what a program is and what its for by reading wikipedia and looking at a template is quite frankly an insult. You are so utterly wrong about this its laughable.

+1

Your arrogance knows no bounds, incredible.
 

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Just a heads up, but on my secondary monitor at work, I have firefox windowed. I reckon it's width is ~1000px.

At this width, the lyrics site in your link is half-covered by the flash advert to the left.
 
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Just a heads up, but on my secondary monitor at work, I have firefox windowed. I reckon it's width is ~1000px.

At this width, the lyrics site in your link is half-covered by the flash advert to the left.

Do you have Javascript disabled? I used it to give a more exact placement of the advert in that website, I made it before I was any good at design so it's a bit hacky. These days I'd lay out the site better and just use css/centering.
 
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Do you have Javascript disabled? I used it to give a more exact placement of the advert in that website, I made it before I was any good at design so it's a bit hacky. These days I'd lay out the site better and just use css/centering.

If you've put a link to that site in your sig. in your covering letter then you're not even going to be considered for an interview, unless they want to interview you for a laugh.

It doesn't validate, the layout is completely skewed for different resolutions/screen sizes and that header image looks like my 13 month old son knocked it up in MS Paint.
 
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You could have gone back and tweaked your existing work rather than say "I used to be crap, but now I'm great. Take my word for it." There are no actual examples that show the level of competence you claim.
 
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Saberu, there must be a reason for you posting your cover letter here. Perhaps you weren't particularly confident in it and wanted people to say what you wanted to hear, that it is in fact just the right thing? If it's not that, then you thought it was brilliant, and you wanted to show off here (which is not dissimilar to the content of your cover letter). The last option is probably that you genuinely wanted people to proof read it. You got that, but responded in a very awkward way because you weren't hearing good comments. If you're saying it doesn't fit into any of these categories, it's probably a good candidate for not being posted in the first place.

Furthermore, many people have drawn your attention to the fact that in reality, a cover letter is very important and a particular style is often required. Your style does not fit into any style that would normally be deemed appropriate.

In this recession when many jobs are being cut and recruitment being scaled-down or halted entirely, and coming from a university outside of the top 50, with an attitude like that you're going to find progression in your career difficult, let alone getting through the initial stages. I do wonder what it would be like to work in a team with you!
 
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You could have gone back and tweaked your existing work rather than say "I used to be crap, but now I'm great. Take my word for it." There are no actual examples that show the level of competence you claim.

I know the site in my sig is rubbish, the ones in the letter aren't. But I'm not going to show them here, because a lot of people here are perfectionists and would denounce it even if it was averagely good just because it wasn't amazing and would go on to say I don't deserve the job.

All I wanted was some comments on my cover letter, I was glad to get them as it showed the various mistakes with grammar and spelling but I strongly disagree with people saying my letter comes across arrogant and certainly don't think it's too coloquial.

If I disagree with a suggestion it doesn't mean I'm being a dick it just means I disagree. I did infact agree with some of the comments in the thread and they are right about the grammar not being that good.

I admit I didn't spend much time on it, it could have been much better but I'm just not used to having to impress people so much from one letter as this is the first full time job in the UK I've ever applied for. I'm starting to get it now that my view is not similar to the general consensus of what makes a good letter so I'll either learn to write a better one or just stay self employed.

Anyway I think overall some of the people in this thread were a little harsh and that my letter isn't infact as arrogant as they say.
 
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Not grasping this are you? If the overall feeling we got from your letter was one of arrogance what do you think your potential employer is going to get? Regardless of whether you think it is or not, WE did so other people also will.

Couple that with you having a go at everyone that gave you their honest opinion, it doesn't bode well for you.
 
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So basicly, your work sucks, but your so far up your own ass you think your e-mazing?

Post your sites in the HTML section if you want some real opinions from people on your work, as the only work we have seen is very below par. you could have atleast added a new banner seems your so good in photoshop. would take what? an hour max? you clearly dont deserv the job if your THAT lazy
 

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but I strongly disagree with people saying my letter comes across arrogant and certainly don't think it's too coloquial.

right, let's have a look shall we

...as you may know..

I can't say I've used Indesign before but from looking at it I can see it's just a fancy version of Photoshop <- Arrogance!

My SEO skills didn't reach ... so I can't give as good examples as I would like to..

I also like to think!!

To top it off <-Arrogance and coloquial my English language skills should be more than adequate to provide a high quality level of content for web pages.

contractions are a no-no for a start, and phrases such as "i can't say i've.." and "i also like to think" are not only the wrong tone in a cover letter, but do come across as strikingly arrogane
 
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My initial impression was that your letter was passable, but on reading the criticism I had to concede that people were making some valid points. Some of those points were handed out with a strong slice of brutal honesty, with the emphasis on brutal, but lots of people are inclined to "play rough" on internet forums. Don't take it personally, and apply the advice given to your next application.
 
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