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No imigrants = fewer people drink driving.Yeah because the good old brits never do anything like it do they, idiot
Was only 5 times over the limit, no biggy.
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Was only 5 times over the limit, no biggy.
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I don't see how it's broken when in the second link you posted states;
The drunkest driver ever caught in Britain is believed to be Peter Banks, 44, who had 210 micrograms of alcohol in 100 milolitres of breath when he was tested in April 2008. The self-confessed alcoholic was jailed for four months and banned from driving for five years.
Also says one of the highest
The drunkest driver ever caught in Britain is believed to be Peter Banks, 44, who had 210 micrograms of alcohol in 100 milolitres of breath when he was tested in April 2008. The self-confessed alcoholic was jailed for four months and banned from driving for five years.
Also says one of the highest
Soldato
The limit is there to cover people who have had a drink the night before, not so people can have a couple of pints and drive. If it was 0% you'd have to wait a good 24 hours before drinking and driving, which is totally unrealistic, and pointless.Pathetic sentance for the previous guy IMO,Blew 188 & gets a £60 fine three year ban & a DID's program
I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
There's also lots of food, mouth wash, cleaning product etc that have alcohol in, and many people could be convicted with out actually knowing they've consumed any alcohol.
I'm amazed he was only 5 times over after drinking 15 pints.
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Soldato
19th May 2007 down one of the bars in town watching the Man U - Chelsea Fa Cup final, 9 pints later drive home 7 miles can't remember a thing except from crawling into bed and sleeping it off!
Yes i have done it and im sure plenty of people on here have done so! Im not proud of it and i won't do it again!
Yes i have done it and im sure plenty of people on here have done so! Im not proud of it and i won't do it again!
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One thing that always surprises & shocks me is the number of truck stops that have licensed bars, now that's a sobering thought (pardon the pun!) especially given a lot of HGV drivers who are "overnighting" have 9 hours off and are then back on the road....
I agree.
I think drink driving is a stupid thing to do but I think some people overreact with their moral high ground.
I don't really think drink drivers are scum, they are just drunk. People do stupid things when they are drunk. If they plan to do it even when they are sober and do it on a regular basis then I might agree they are scum then.
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ok on a side note for those that say you do or do not have strong enough laws in the UK here is some stuff I have dug up regarding DUI in other countries.:
United States: Jail time, loss of licence and fine. Varies from state to state.
Australia: fines, loss of license, jail time, and medical before getting your licence back.
El Salvador: First offence = death by firing squad
Bulgaria: Second offence = execution
France: USD $1,000 fine, imprisonment for one year, and loss of license for three years.
Finland and Sweden: automatic one-year jail sentence including hard labour
Norway: jail for three weeks with hard labour and loss of license for a year, second offence gets a lifetime driving ban.
South Africa: ten-year prison sentence or USD $10,000 fine and, in some cases, both
Canada: first offence = loss of license for one year and a USD $600 fine. Second offence = two weeks in jail and loss of license for two years. Third offence = three months in jail and loss of license for three years.
Russia = Lifetime Ban
Turkey: punishes drunk drivers by taking them 20 miles from their town and making them walk back with a police escort.
Poland: drunk drivers are subject to jail, fine, and even worse, mandatory attendance at political lectures.
Malaya: if a man is caught he is jailed. If he is married, his wife is jailed, too.
Costa Rica: the number plates are removed immediately from the cars of those who drink and drive.
United States: Jail time, loss of licence and fine. Varies from state to state.
Australia: fines, loss of license, jail time, and medical before getting your licence back.
El Salvador: First offence = death by firing squad
Bulgaria: Second offence = execution
France: USD $1,000 fine, imprisonment for one year, and loss of license for three years.
Finland and Sweden: automatic one-year jail sentence including hard labour
Norway: jail for three weeks with hard labour and loss of license for a year, second offence gets a lifetime driving ban.
South Africa: ten-year prison sentence or USD $10,000 fine and, in some cases, both
Canada: first offence = loss of license for one year and a USD $600 fine. Second offence = two weeks in jail and loss of license for two years. Third offence = three months in jail and loss of license for three years.
Russia = Lifetime Ban
Turkey: punishes drunk drivers by taking them 20 miles from their town and making them walk back with a police escort.
Poland: drunk drivers are subject to jail, fine, and even worse, mandatory attendance at political lectures.
Malaya: if a man is caught he is jailed. If he is married, his wife is jailed, too.
Costa Rica: the number plates are removed immediately from the cars of those who drink and drive.
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LOL! When they are still drunk?
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I assume so but could not find a definitive answer to that.
As a person who hates drunk drivers I have read this thread and seen people saying that the limit should be higher or lower, that lack of sleep is just as bad if not worse and various other arguments.
I have to say that some have some merit.
The average person that drinks 3 beers and drives home is probably a lot safer than the person who goes 2 days without sleep and then does a ton down the M1.
probably 90% of people have no clue how much they can drink before they are over the limit and since medicines and other things contain or produce alcohol a 0% limit of not totally feasible
The common denominator here is reaction time and reasoning speed
so lets scrap the breath test entirely and devise a testing system for reaction time and reasoning that can be done on the side of the road.
Call the offence driving in an unfit state or something along those lines
Then you cover drinking, lack of sleep, use of drugs and other things as well all in the same thing.
Don't know what your working to but I've been told 1 hour to let it get into your bloodstream, then after that 1 unit per hour to be removed by the liver.
If you've had 2 pints that's probably 5 units, but lets say it's weaker and only 4 units - that gives you one hour to remove 2.5 units from your blood?
Even if you assume the alcohol gets into your bloodstream faster (empty stomach) your still looking at being at least 2 units when you leave and so still over the limit.
You would still most probably be over the legal limit.
Eating a big meal doesn't stop the alcohol entering your blood stream, in fact it just slows down the process of alcohol so you would be more likely to be over the limit.
2 pints could easily put you at 6 units if is strong lager. It takes about 1 hour per unit of alcohol. Now you might drink weaker beer, so 4 units. And your liver might be faster, but that would still take say 3 hours to process. If the 2nd pint was towards the end of your 2 hour lunch then you would be over the legal limit. And rightly so.
2 pints can have big effects on ones cognitive abilities, even if it doesn't make you feel drunk. Why not simply allocate a driver who want drink, and take it in turns.
Pathetic sentance for the previous guy IMO,Blew 188 & gets a £60 fine three year ban & a DID's program
I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
I thought the limit was not 0 as there are some reasons you can give a reading even when you have had no drinks?
I'm a bit sceptical of that list. What's the source?
In this article, many of the same punishments are listed, but it also says that, "In England, a drunk driver pays the equivalent of a $250 fine, spends a year in jail, and then loses their license for one year."
How often does that happen?
I find it hard to believe that Russia, the drunkest country in the world, hands out a lifetime ban on drunk-driving. But maybe they do - I'd just like to see a credible source.
Soldato
If I'm not over the limit I don't feel the need. I use a breathalyser, granted it might not be entirely accurate but it's good enough for me.
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Actually it could well have been the site you reference. I did that list a while back for a discussion on another forum and could not remember where it came from.
I too find that list odd. I suspect that it is the "maximum" penalty for drink driving and not the starting penalty and some may be well out of date.
However, there is at least one thing wrong I can spot without even researching it. Bulgaria doesn't execute you for a 2nd offence. They are a member of the EEC and have no death penalty for any offence never mind drink driving. The last person executed in Bulgaria was in 1989. In fact if you google it, it's on the spot fines for drink driving and no loss of your licence.
Also in the States it can be either jailtime, loss of licence or fine or a combination depending how drunk you are and whether it's a repeat offence. A lot of DUI offences are dealt with just a fine and not even a loss of the driving licence.
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I don't see how it's broken when in the second link you posted states;
The drunkest driver ever caught in Britain is believed to be Peter Banks, 44, who had 210 micrograms of alcohol in 100 milolitres of breath when he was tested in April 2008. The self-confessed alcoholic was jailed for four months and banned from driving for five years.
The drunkest driver ever caught in Britain is believed to be Peter Banks, 44, who had 210 micrograms of alcohol in 100 milolitres of breath when he was tested in April 2008. The self-confessed alcoholic was jailed for four months and banned from driving for five years.
My bad, I was reading the first part of the sun article which said he was the worst ever, just added the telegraph article for multiple sources, didn't read the entire thing. Quality sun journalism as always
