Ok have decided to get the 700D as i don't want a side window and wouldn't use hot swap. I know some have said the stock corsair fans are not upto much and watching a 5 part video review for the 800 cooling didn't seem that good. So for those of you who have this case what fans did you use to replace the corsair 140's. I will be using a H50 with 2 apache black's in push pull and also three apache black's mounted in the three space's at the top of the case but there seemed to be concern in the video review about the two 140's and the lack of cool air they bring into the case so that's my main worry. Had a look but there doesn't seem to be a 140 version of the apache black which is a shame as i would have automatically got those.