Impact of GTX 560?

[Troezar]

Just wondering as the launch of the GTX 560 can't be far away? What is the likely impact on current prices or will it just slot in to the current pricing structure?

 

[TheCenturion]

Very little I imagine. Prices might go down a bit. But more than anything, stock levels will simply go down. That's how it always seems to be when new cards appear. Except with the 8800 cards, they feel like they were hanging around forever.

 

[Vertigo]

It'll slot in at around £200 as it's going to compete with the 6950. I'm waiting to see how the performance compares with the 570.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I think GTX560 would be difficult to compete with the 6950, with the consideration of it can unlock to 6970...

However, with that said...if GTX560 can deliver between 6950 and 6970 performance, and consume less power plus produce less heat, then it could potentially be a good competing product.

 

[jigger]

Don't Nvidia need something to go up against the HD6870 ?

I always thought the GTX560 was meant to sit between 6870 and 6950. The water gets deep after the 6950.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Don't Nvidia need something to go up against the HD6870 ?

I always thought the GTX560 was meant to sit between 6870 and 6950. The water gets deep after the 6950.

With the release of 6950, it has pretty much made 6870 pointless buy now...

Prior to the released of 6950, the lowered price GTX470 had served the purpose of competing against the 6870, with superior speed (when comparing overclock vs overclock) and tessellation capability, but at the cost of extra power consumption and heat. The position of GTX560 vs 6950 might be opposite, with the GTX560 being the lower power consumption and less heat, but at the cost of slightly lesser tessellation capability may be. But I think the GTX560's default stock speed has to be at at least GTX470 level, and overclock must have a reasonable margin if it was to compete against the 6950...

 

[Tute]

Don't Nvidia need something to go up against the HD6870 ?

I always thought it was:

GTX560 - HD6950
GTX570 - HD6970
GTX580 -
GTX595?- HD6990

The 580 sits on it's own with no real competition.

 

[elpedro]

I always thought it was:

GTX560 - HD6950
GTX570 - HD6970
GTX580 - HD5970
GTX595?- HD6990

 

[Troezar]

It'll slot in at around £200 as it's going to compete with the 6950. I'm waiting to see how the performance compares with the 570.

I'm hoping for really solid performer at £200. More competition will be a good thing

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It looks like the GTX560 will be released on the 25th of January:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...-launch-confirmed-at-820mhz-for-25th-january/

Supposedly it will gave a 180W TDP and the 3DMark Vantage scores place it in between an HD6870 and a HD6950:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/faith/nvidia-gtx-560-power-requirement-revealed/

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...-gtx-560-performance-score-in-3dmark-vantage/

 

[Cleeecooo]

So is this card going to use a vapour chamber for cooling?

 

[Tute]

snip

Aren't the 5 series EOL now?

 

[arc@css]

Aren't the 5 series EOL now?

All bar the 5700's iirc.

 

[Troezar]

It looks like the GTX560 will be released on the 25th of January:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...-launch-confirmed-at-820mhz-for-25th-january/

Supposedly it will gave a 180W TDP and the 3DMark Vantage scores place it in between an HD6870 and a HD6950:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/faith/nvidia-gtx-560-power-requirement-revealed/

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...-gtx-560-performance-score-in-3dmark-vantage/

Hmmm looks like I may be giving the green team a try this time unless the 6950 drops a little over the next 3 months or so...

 

[Skyrocket]

It all depends on performance and price.
It's impact could be BIG if it's close to 6850 up to 1080p for 180£

 

[Troezar]

It all depends on performance and price.
It's impact could be BIG if it's close to 6850 up to 1080p for 180£

Looks like the 25th could be interesting

 

[555BUK]

GTX560 will compete against and beat the 6870 but will not match 6950 performance.

The 560 will be an unlocked GTX 460. This will open up the extra 48 shader cores (384 vs 336) and it will no doubt come with much higher clocks. Lets assume that the extra cores provide 15% higher performance and that the 560 comes clocked at 800MHz (20% higher). This will give ~35% more power than GTX 460 which will take the 560 well above 6870 but just below 6950. At such speeds it may come close to 6950, but the 6950 will have much better overclocking headroom and will be the better card.

So, that leaves GTX560 competing with 6870, beating it on performance and probably costing about the same (£180).

NVidia's best defense against against the 6950 will be to release a "GTX 465". This could be a a hobbled GTX570 that could sit somewhere between GTX 470 and GTX570 type performance.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

AFAIK,the HD6870 1GB was meant to compete with the GTX460 1GB but ended up around the same speed as a GTX470. The HD6870 should be around £150 and because it has a small GPU AMD can probably afford to price it in this range.

The GTX560 cannot be much faster than a GTX470 otherwise it will affect GTX570 sales. I suspect it will be around the speed of an HD5870.

 

[555BUK]

The GTX560 cannot be much faster than a GTX470 otherwise it will affect GTX570 sales.

GTX560 will be faster than GTX470 but not by much. NVidia hobbled the original GF104 so as not to overlap it's product range. Typically the GTX 470 is 20% faster than GTX 460, but with the extra 15% shaders activated it becomes very close. If NVidia then up GF114 clocks by 20% GTX 560 will be >10% faster than GTX470.

An overclocked GTX460 can outperform a stock GTX470 so a much higher stock clocked 560 will not have any problems whatsoever. I expect GTX 460 and 470 used values will drop as soon as th 560 rviews hit.

 

[hash70]

depends on the price