Prostitution - your stance
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Soldato
only with more than 2 girls
Tax their cracks!!11!!1
Soldato
If you look at the OP's question from another point, if that was your daughter or wife that was working as a prostitute and likely being exploited, I'm pretty sure almost every one of us would honestly have a problem with it.
The thought of my daughter having to do this would make me want to go all Liam Neeson/Taken about the situation. Would be my worst nightmare next to her actually being abducted for sex trade.
Realistically will you ever ban it - no as the demand will always be there.
Should it be regulated, probably yes but I do have a big issue with it from a Christian point of view as it is absolutely morally wrong.
Thing is it will always be around in some form and if it can be removed from being classed as a criminal activity then that would throw up further issues:
• If part of a wider criminal activity then it could be seen to clean up that part of their ‘business’ but also may give way to having a legitimate business in which to launder money (getting all Breaking Bad on things!)
• If it isn’t part of wider criminal activity then may work but would be difficult to police, monitor and tax
• Is it really going to stop underground sex trade activity? No not in the slightest
The thought of my daughter having to do this would make me want to go all Liam Neeson/Taken about the situation. Would be my worst nightmare next to her actually being abducted for sex trade.
Realistically will you ever ban it - no as the demand will always be there.
Should it be regulated, probably yes but I do have a big issue with it from a Christian point of view as it is absolutely morally wrong.
Thing is it will always be around in some form and if it can be removed from being classed as a criminal activity then that would throw up further issues:
• If part of a wider criminal activity then it could be seen to clean up that part of their ‘business’ but also may give way to having a legitimate business in which to launder money (getting all Breaking Bad on things!)
• If it isn’t part of wider criminal activity then may work but would be difficult to police, monitor and tax
• Is it really going to stop underground sex trade activity? No not in the slightest
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Is there much difference between prostitution and pornography? Aside from a camera?
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Essentially, no.
Plenty of people use it in the US to get around solicitation laws... they're looking for a star for a commercial feature. Just stick a camera between the punter and the paid, and you're golden.
Didn't read all the thread, hope someone has said 'everyone pays for it in the end'.
The only reason I might find a prostitution a bit wrong is because society has programmed me to think that way.
If I remove myself from that situation I don't really see what the problem with it is. Sex is taken way too seriously. Sure there are problems with the way prostitution is carried out today but I don't have any problem with the concept.
The only reason I might find a prostitution a bit wrong is because society has programmed me to think that way.
If I remove myself from that situation I don't really see what the problem with it is. Sex is taken way too seriously. Sure there are problems with the way prostitution is carried out today but I don't have any problem with the concept.
Soldato
An escort agency was busted in Newcastle a while ago as they pushed their luck and got too greedy (brothels or gentleman's clubs as they called them amongst other things). On their books was a civil servant employee/fitness instructor and a policewoman (who didn't look like she would be worth paying to be honest), basically woman who had found a good well paid second job that they were willing to do. Not quite as seedy as it initially sounds.
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I am ok with it completely, the biggest problem with it, is that it can be very expensive. Especially in the uk. In some countries you can give a girl 150 for the whole night. In the uk for nice girl they start at 300 an hour. This is def cause it is not legal. Of course it would be better to not have to pay for it, but with girls being so difficult most of the time and unless you are realy good liar and realy in to pretending to be interested in what a girl has to say then you will end up in bad luck. If I had more money I would without a doubt spend more on girls but it is just so over priced and not with it imo. I do not see any ethical problems with it what so ever.
if girls didn't require guys too jump through so many hoops then there would be less need for it. It also prevents a lot of guys from losing control of themselves and acting inappropriately on there urges.
if girls didn't require guys too jump through so many hoops then there would be less need for it. It also prevents a lot of guys from losing control of themselves and acting inappropriately on there urges.
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Have no problem with it, fire away legalize it.
But not for me, Best word for it ; Icky
two mates went to a brothel, there was a queue, one left simply due to idea of a queue
But not for me, Best word for it ; Icky
two mates went to a brothel, there was a queue, one left simply due to idea of a queue
Exactly, if we removed the stigma from sex, what prostitutes do is very similar to a masseuse, therapist or psychiatrist.
Shame religion and what not have tarred sex as bad and something only certain people should do.
People doing it out of choice are going to charge high prices because they are going to be the ones good at it and caring about the service they provide.
Sort of yea, last time I talked about it I just got abuse and had to take 2 of my main profiles down on a few sites, including AW, the biggest one, which is fine because I've moved away from that kind of business any way but still, the principle remains.
I also got contacted by two journalists, including one working for the Mail on Sunday magazine thing, who wanted to interview me.
But to clarify, I am not a rent boy, one of my hard limits is no homosexual stuff, I refuse to have sex with another guy watching now as well.
Soldato
Real biological reasons exist for sex to be considered more important than a massage - but I do agree we have massive hang ups historically & an unhealthy attitude towards it - but selling sex isn't the same as free love (which I thinks totally fine).
It's also turning people into a commodity for use & further objectifies the prostitute & the gender of the prostitute (in a vast majority of cases women) - it would also be short sighted to ignore the very real fact that women are already treated like objects for sexual gratification by many in society already.
Not everybody against prostitution is against it for religious or prudish sexual attitude reasons.
Also also important to view the reality of the situation, that in almost all cases prostitutes are women who come from poor families with bad life prospects (I'd imagine also having a much higher propensity to have suffered sexual abuse) selling sex (which they may or may not like doing) to usually economically well off men - that just doesn't seem the kind of thing society should be giving the green light in my book.
Yes, exceptions exists - as with all things, but I think in a social system with money - it acts as too strong of a negative incentive for those in great amounts of debt to do things which go against who they are - not to mention the potential long term psychological damage (as statistically they are far more prone to be on the receiving end of violence & rape due to the empathy eroding nature of being commoditised).
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People sell themselves as a commodity for all sorts of things in jobs.
I completely agree that women are treated by society as objects for sexual gratification, which is why I campaign against rape culture and destructive things like the removal of Page 3.
That doesn't mean women or sex should be completely sterilized, punish the people who perpetuate such horrific views, not the victims. Victim blaming is part of the problem.
Soldato
Yes, of course - but at many different levels.
I'd be interested to hear how page 3 is worse than prostitution for commoditising women & turning them into objects for sexual gratification.
I totally agree.
People can have massive gang-bangs in groups of 100 for all I care, free love is fine - people should have no hang ups about exploring their sexuality.
If groups of women want to sleep around I'm cool with that too - it's nothing to do with sterilisation - it's about exploitation.
I'd prefer a society with healthy sexual attitudes in which men & women can be open about wanting sex & simply go that way - it's the exchange of money which changes the ball-game.
I agree victim blaming is horrible - but I may have missed something as I'm unsure how it relates to the point I was making.