Anyone use Cooper tyres here?

pugheaven · 12 Mar 2013 at 18:58

Contemplating a change on our Type R, 225/35/19 currently with two Falkens on the front and two of KwikFits own Marongoni tyres (that were fitted when we bought the car). However, just noticed one of the Falkens is shot and when I checked the tracking was out. Strange as it shouldn't be so think the missus has hit a pot hole or something.

Anyway, was looking at Cooper, but never used them before. Anyone? If not, I'll stick with my Falkens.

Coopers here

[TW]Fox · 12 Mar 2013 at 18:59

It's obviously a pretty nice car on 225/35/19's, so why is the choice Coopers or Falkens?

Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's are £147 (thats only £25 more than the Falkens!), or Dunlop SP Sport MAXX are £143.

rodenal · 12 Mar 2013 at 19:02

As per above really, plus if the falkens are the 912's they're a pretty crap tyre for anything with a bit of go. If it's 453's i've never used them though 452's were decent enough - still not really comparable to the real big players though.

pugheaven · 12 Mar 2013 at 19:04

[TW]Fox;23925325 said:
It's obviously a pretty nice car on 225/35/19's, so why is the choice Coopers or Falkens?

Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's are £147 (thats only £25 more than the Falkens!), or Dunlop SP Sport MAXX are £143.

Habit mate with the Falkens, always used them on the Pug, the Saab etc so I tend to stick with them as they've always been spot on.

However, just thinking I wouldn't mind a change really and the Coopers were around the same price but not really heard much about them. Am willing to go to £150 per corner but above that I doubt the wife will reap any reward from them so it'll be a waste of money.

EDIT: The Falkens would be the 452's, it's what it currently has. Also, Fox the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's this from personal use?

EDIT 2: OMFG, check these out I found while searching for the Goodyears...

bledd · 12 Mar 2013 at 19:47

Get 4
http://camskill.co.uk/m55b0s468p107...Eff_:_B_Wet_Grip:_B_NoiseClass:_2_Noise:_71dB

Raymond Lin · 12 Mar 2013 at 19:54

^^ As much as I am a fan of Hankooks, surely these should be better for the same money?

http://camskill.co.uk/m55b0s468p105...Eff_:_E_Wet_Grip:_A_NoiseClass:_1_Noise:_69dB

The Edge · 12 Mar 2013 at 20:26

Cooper tyres are very good. Owned by Avon i think, or vice versa.

bledd · 12 Mar 2013 at 21:05

Raymond Lin said:
^^ As much as I am a fan of Hankooks, surely these should be better for the same money?

http://camskill.co.uk/m55b0s468p105...Eff_:_E_Wet_Grip:_A_NoiseClass:_1_Noise:_69dB

Hankook = harder sidewall; better suited for honda

[TW]Fox · 12 Mar 2013 at 21:07

pugheaven said:
Also, Fox the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's this from personal use?

Yes, but I picked them because they seem to win every tyre test going and come second in the few they dont win.

Gibbo · 12 Mar 2013 at 22:34

pugheaven said:
Habit mate with the Falkens, always used them on the Pug, the Saab etc so I tend to stick with them as they've always been spot on.

However, just thinking I wouldn't mind a change really and the Coopers were around the same price but not really heard much about them. Am willing to go to £150 per corner but above that I doubt the wife will reap any reward from them so it'll be a waste of money.

EDIT: The Falkens would be the 452's, it's what it currently has. Also, Fox the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's this from personal use?

EDIT 2: OMFG, check these out I found while searching for the Goodyears...

452 is an ok tyre, heard the 453 is pretty good.

But check MPSS, F1AS2 and Conti CS3/CS5 all a better tyre. MPSS is the best though if in your size just for the longevity.

Westyfield2 · 12 Mar 2013 at 23:50

The Edge said:
Cooper tyres are very good. Owned by Avon i think, or vice versa.

Avon Tyres was sold to Cooper Tyres back in 1997 (and the Melksham factory renamed). These days lots of the Avon Motorsport contracts/sponsorships are being renamed to the Cooper brand.

beermonster · 13 Mar 2013 at 01:16

I swapped my falken 452 for f1A2 and they are much better for not a lot more money , absolute no brainer.

MissChief · 13 Mar 2013 at 02:46

[TW]Fox;23926266 said:
Yes, but I picked them because they seem to win every tyre test going and come second in the few they dont win.

Fitted them to my Leon Cupra last week and so far I'm very impressed. Even coped well enough in the snow the past couple of days.

sovietspybob · 13 Mar 2013 at 07:05

Autogrip are possibly the worst tyres i've ever seen.

Wife has them on her Clio 197 as they were on when we bought it and we're going to be changing them pretty sharpish even though they've got a good 6mm of tread left on them. They're outright dangerous!

Third Opinion · 13 Mar 2013 at 08:11

sovietspybob said:
Autogrip are possibly the worst tyres i've ever seen.

Wife has them on her Clio 197 as they were on when we bought it and we're going to be changing them pretty sharpish even though they've got a good 6mm of tread left on them. They're outright dangerous!

You haven't used Kormoran yet.

I won't bore you with it as I had a thread already. I seriously think they are even worse than Linglongs (not that I have tried them).

Amos91 · 13 Mar 2013 at 08:26

sovietspybob said:
Autogrip are possibly the worst tyres i've ever seen.

Wife has them on her Clio 197 as they were on when we bought it and we're going to be changing them pretty sharpish even though they've got a good 6mm of tread left on them. They're outright dangerous!

Got to love the previous owners mentality of buying a hot hatch renowned for handling and then putting tyres on that would struggle on a micra.

Third Opinion · 13 Mar 2013 at 08:34

olivercamos said:
Got to love the previous owners mentality of buying a hot hatch renowned for handling and then putting tyres on that would struggle on a micra.

Traders are the worst. They will stick anything on them to get through an MOT.

My father bought a ST TDCi Mondeo from a car supermarket and had Sunew or something stuck on the front.

ubersonic · 13 Mar 2013 at 08:52

Third Opinion said:
You haven't used Kormoran yet.

I won't bore you with it as I had a thread already. I seriously think they are even worse than Linglongs (not that I have tried them).

I still cannot believe how bad Black Diamond are, bought an mkiii Supra with them all round a few years ago and the grip in the dry was poor but as soon as it started raining then even light use of the accelerator resulted in fishtailing (in a car renowned for handling) without either of the turbos spooled :eek:

pugheaven · 13 Mar 2013 at 10:07

I had LingLongs on my Saab Aero when I bought it, all brand new... I've never used such a poor tyre... normally even cheapo ones aren't that bad in the dry, these were... understeered way more than it should. In the wet however I swear on my life, they were frightening, it became a joke for 4 weeks as I was driving with a mate and every single roundabout you just went straight on lol, never ever understeered so often in a FWD car... and that was normal driving speeds... replaced them all with Falkens and it was like night and day. Longlongs... I mean... rofl, I'd love to know what they make them out of, plastic lego it felt like.

Think I'm going to go the Good Years that Fox linked, have to admit, look a quality tyre with no poor review... so I think I'll get them on the Type R and if they're as good as they look, I'll dump my RX8 ones on a set of track alloys and replace them with Good Year as well.

Minstadave · 13 Mar 2013 at 10:30

Good decision!