Caporegime
Shift in cargo, failure of the elevators, pilot error, engine failure due to fuel problems, electrical fault, autopilot failure.
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Cargo plane crashes in Afghanistan killing all 7 crew
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Soldato
we found out about this Monday night at work, most in the industry think its freight breaking lose
the clock is wrong it happened on monday
Would the BLACKBOX have a g-force sensor recording or something showing the weight of the plane shifting?
Not sure, but I'm sure it would show the attitude of the plane changing along with the position of the control surfaces and pilot controls to determine whether it was pilot input, faulty control surfaces, or something else (load shift).
Soldato
Good lord thats awful, the fact it almost leveled out before hitting the ground suggests the load was insecure possibly, you can even hear the engines at full tilt just before it started to roll and turn towards mother earth
RIP to all 7 onboard.
RIP to all 7 onboard.
Engine failure wouldn't have caused that crash.
Man of Honour
There is very rarely one "cause" of an aircraft accident.
Soldato
Experts like pilots and military loadmasters on other forums all seem 99% sure it was load shift.
Very surreal video
Very surreal video
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Why would you have been on a cargo plane out of Afghanistan?
Why is there no sound from the plane but sounds inside the car ? A 747 at max thrust on takeoff stalling would make the most horrendous noise and also the impact with the ground.
There is something not quite right with the video. The plane stalling looks wrong to me. A 747 produces a huge amount of thrust on takeoff would a load shift cause it to fall like that ? Also his wheels are still down which would say to me that there was issues as it took off. The wheels are raised asap to reduce drag. If it was a load shift I would guess it happened as it lifted off the runway.
Will be interesting to see the investigation but if it's a military plane it might not get released or not the full story anyway.
There is something not quite right with the video. The plane stalling looks wrong to me. A 747 produces a huge amount of thrust on takeoff would a load shift cause it to fall like that ? Also his wheels are still down which would say to me that there was issues as it took off. The wheels are raised asap to reduce drag. If it was a load shift I would guess it happened as it lifted off the runway.
Will be interesting to see the investigation but if it's a military plane it might not get released or not the full story anyway.
^^ Plane is further away than it looks and seems to be a fairly strong wind moving away from the vehicle towards the plane and somewhat left to right which may have contributed to both the accident and the sound not carrying.
From a really rough guess I'd say it was a combination of change in external environment wind/pressure and the load shifting significantly - pretty much any other likely factors would have resulted in either a far more violent (with the plane likely breaking up before hitting the ground) or far less violent turn.
From a really rough guess I'd say it was a combination of change in external environment wind/pressure and the load shifting significantly - pretty much any other likely factors would have resulted in either a far more violent (with the plane likely breaking up before hitting the ground) or far less violent turn.
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Seems it was filmed from inside an armored car with a 7" thick windscreen which would hide most noises.
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Holy Fireball Batman, such a proper explosion of fuel, all igniting in one go, least it would have been quick, oh so very quick for any of the crew.
Soldato
Experts like pilots and military loadmasters on other forums all seem 99% sure it was load shift.
Very surreal video
yeah that's what most I have spoken to at work say.
makes us think always double check etc before we sigh off on a plane we load.
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I feel for the pilots 
in those last moments... Knowing that in just few seconds you will be no more... It probably felt like hours for them...
Some people suggest that the cargo broke off from restraints and went to the back of the plane... causing it to stall.
in those last moments... Knowing that in just few seconds you will be no more... It probably felt like hours for them...Some people suggest that the cargo broke off from restraints and went to the back of the plane... causing it to stall.