New build with £1500 budget?

[preacher666]

How are peeps doing the lists? Is there an option somewhere?

 

[jesusismyairbag]

dont get windows 8.1 - its a pile of absolute ****, childish tablet-esque nonsense.

 

[honosuseri]

Its going to be in an office/study room so noise not that much of a drama, I have a decent headset so sound is ok. The size of the PC isnt an issue just the cost, the larger the case the more expensive usually though I assume.

Stulid, to answer you Q. I have no reusable PC hardware as I have been living off of my laptop until now (literally just a mouse and headset is what I own).

Thanks all

It was me that asked fella not Stulid. Thanks for answering though.

To be honest I want to hit you with a reality check. A 290 or dual 280Xs for a 1080P 60Hz Monitor is just overkill to be honest and wasted cash. Same with the i7 to be fair, yes potentially you can get more FPS in some games but on a 60Hz panel going over 60FPS makes naff all odds. Yes the i7 would be a little better for Xfire/SLi but you have no need for that really to power that panel.

In short you need to pick your panel and build around that......

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 OC WindForce 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-R929OC-4GD) £367.99
1 x AOC G2460PQU 24" Widescreen 144Hz 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Gunmetal £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £169.99
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £99.95
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - White £94.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £73.99
1 x Toshiba SSD HDTS212EZSTA 9.5mm 128GB Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £71.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £69.95
1 x Qpad MK-50 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - UK Layout - Brown Switches £69.95
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit £59.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £43.99
1 x Samsung SE-S208DB/TSBS External Slimline 8x DVD-RW (TV Connect) - Black £21.98
Total : £1,528.86 (includes shipping : £20.10).



That's how I'd most likely balance things out but we are all different. I will point out there is a free 3 month trial of windows 8, I'd be tempted to use that to help make up my mind and use the saved cash to get another SSD. Putting them in RAID 0 combines the capacity and increases the speed and the case will show them off nicely through the window.

All the best with it bud, I look forward to seeing how you balance things out in the end

 

[stulid]

To be honest I want to hit you with a reality check. A 290 or dual 280Xs for a 1080P 60Hz Monitor is just overkill to be honest and wasted cash. Same with the i7 to be fair, yes potentially you can get more FPS in some games but on a 60Hz panel going over 60FPS makes naff all odds. Yes the i7 would be a little better for Xfire/SLi but you have no need for that really to power that panel.

What about minimum, averagre frame rates?

Can you show me your FRAP numbers for say BF4 or Crysis3 at 1080P at maximum settings?

 

[Dizz]

It was me that asked fella not Stulid. Thanks for answering though.

To be honest I want to hit you with a reality check. A 290 or dual 280Xs for a 1080P 60Hz Monitor is just overkill to be honest and wasted cash. Same with the i7 to be fair, yes potentially you can get more FPS in some games but on a 60Hz panel going over 60FPS makes naff all odds. Yes the i7 would be a little better for Xfire/SLi but you have no need for that really to power that panel.

In short you need to pick your panel and build around that......

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 OC WindForce 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-R929OC-4GD) £367.99
1 x AOC G2460PQU 24" Widescreen 144Hz 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Gunmetal £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £169.99
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £99.95
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - White £94.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £73.99
1 x Toshiba SSD HDTS212EZSTA 9.5mm 128GB Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £71.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £69.95
1 x Qpad MK-50 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - UK Layout - Brown Switches £69.95
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit £59.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £43.99
1 x Samsung SE-S208DB/TSBS External Slimline 8x DVD-RW (TV Connect) - Black £21.98
Total : £1,528.86 (includes shipping : £20.10).



That's how I'd most likely balance things out but we are all different. I will point out there is a free 3 month trial of windows 8, I'd be tempted to use that to help make up my mind and use the saved cash to get another SSD. Putting them in RAID 0 combines the capacity and increases the speed and the case will show them off nicely through the window.

All the best with it bud, I look forward to seeing how you balance things out in the end

Sorry about that mate, it's an interesting point on the monitor. How would the R9 290 fair up on a 144 screen?

 

[stulid]

Sorry about that mate, it's an interesting point on the monitor. How would the R9 290 fair up on a 144 screen?

Its not tho, Hz and frame rate are not related unless you use Vsync which then causes input lag while trying to frag.

If the fps drops below say 60Hz then the frame rate is halved to 30fps or less, Triple buffering can try and fix this but again input lag can be an issue, games may not support it and it uses some of the Vram.

Thats why gamers dont use Vsync and would rather have the tearing effect on screen caused by two frames being partially shown by the monitor.

I have one of those AOC screens here and two R29 280X's and know exactly what to expect in modern titles that place more and more demand on parts.

An i7 is a better pairing for Crossfire high-end cards to eliminate any bottlenecks.

My R9 280X review which has a i7 3930K

My AOC 144hz screen quick look

So anything over 60fps is not wasted on a 60Hz screen, in fact look at some of the Crysis3 and BF4 1080P numbers the minimums are just touching 60fps and that's with a beastly system.

Remember two R9 280X > single R9 290

 

[honosuseri]

Sorry about that mate, it's an interesting point on the monitor. How would the R9 290 fair up on a 144 screen?

Stulid has already thrown up benchmarks for the GPUs and the CPU scaling in BF4.

The i5 4670K at stock clocks was what 72 minimum and averaging 95 FPS in the BF4 link? In my eyes it's a great gaming CPU. The 290 GPU is more than enough for 1080P gaming, a lot of the benchmarks are focused at higher resolutions as you can well see.

All I have done is balance my spec around a better gaming panel. It is still 1080P but you will notice the benefits of exceeding 60FPS on it that's all. The specs Stulid and Idleman have done are great base systems just let down by the 60Hz 1080P panel that's all.

 

[Dizz]

Well thanks for all your time with these builds, I will be doing more research on the build while I'm in the negotiations with my wife

 

[Dizz]

Just done a little more research, does the R9 290 actually suffer heat problems And if so do the OcUk cards make a substantial difference?

Thanks

 

[stulid]

Just done a little more research, does the R9 290 actually suffer heat problems And if so do the OcUk cards make a substantial difference?

Thanks

The aftermarket coolers do not suffer heat problems, to be fair they are designed to run upto 94/95C on the core anyway, the stock coolers dont allow them to get this close.

Ignore the fps in that CPU BF4 link, all its good for showing is where the CPU's sit relative to each other, look carefully and it says they used a Asus Ares2 which is a serious piece of kit - http://www.asus.com/ROG_ROG/ARES26GD5/

 

[Kellogz]

Jesus your lass will let you spend fifteen hundred quid on a computer? How much did you have to spend on her to achieve this compromise?

Im not even gonna comment how much my wifes let me spent and shes only had a few clothes and a basic laptop

 

[preacher666]

Just done a little more research, does the R9 290 actually suffer heat problems And if so do the OcUk cards make a substantial difference?

Thanks

You might get lucky with an r9, some can be locked to close to a r9x