Mantle And Screen tearing, do you get any?

humbug · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:16

Despite the fact that i'm a GFX whore and don't have enough vRam (2GB) to run BF4 on Ultra with Mantle, But i have gone back to it because its awesome!

I'm slowly inching the GFX settings up and then playing for some hours before deciding that i can notch one more little part of the setting up (slowly getting some decent GFX)

I have a 60Hz IPS screen, in DX i get a lot of that unsightly screen tearing, especially if it goes over 60 FPS, i really don't like it so i run vSync, I don't run vSync with mantle, i just let it run at <200 FPS and get no screen tearing, or there might be some, but i'm finding it difficult to see it.

Is it just me, how are others finding it on other screens?

r7slayer · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:47

Yea I can't remember getting tearing with mantle either but I went back to the old drivers for the sake of other games and I get tearing now and then so I run with Vsync on.

shankly1985 · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:48

humbug said:
Despite the fact that i'm a GFX whore and don't have enough vRam (2GB) to run BF4 on Ultra with Mantle, But i have gone back to it because its awesome!

I'm slowly inching the GFX settings up and then playing for some hours before deciding that i can notch one more little part of the setting up (slowly getting some decent GFX)

I have a 60Hz IPS screen, in DX i get a lot of that unsightly screen tearing, especially if it goes over 60 FPS, i really don't like it so i run vSync, I don't run vSync with mantle, i just let it run at <200 FPS and get no screen tearing, or there might be some, but i'm finding it difficult to see it.

Is it just me, how are others finding it on other screens?

Also don't get any, while I never notice screen tear unless I look for it. On DirectX I can see it but on Mantle I don't seem to get any.

Tell me if you can see any?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiLZ0eeQCBo

Gregster · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:51

lol Shanks, there is loads of tearing in your video

Suarez7 · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:54

ITT AMD users pretend they have gsync alternative before nvidia.

Just jesting, if it has done that then good on AMD.

Edit: Just seen shanks video, definite tearing.

humbug · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:55

The Voice of Nvidia up there ^^^^

shankly1985 said:
Also don't get any, while I never notice screen tear unless I look for it. On DirectX I can see it but on Mantle I don't seem to get any.

Tell me if you can see any?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiLZ0eeQCBo

No, it looks pretty solid, difficult to tell though, have got motion blur on?

PS: bad move getting back into that Tank

BS Dave · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:55

if you don't run v sync you'll get tearing. that's just the way it is, if you run a high fps screen and fast cards you notice it less but it's still there.

shankly1985 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:03

Gregster said:
lol Shanks, there is loads of tearing in your video

I don't see any?

Martini1991 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:06

There's deffo tearing (When you're turning fast)

Can't say I've noticed tearing for quite a while on my 120HZ screen, even if DirectX :confused:

I run Fifa 14 at like 500 FPS and it's perfect.
But I'm aware I should be getting tearing.

I also noticed stutter in your video too

Kaapstad · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:14

BS Dave said:
if you don't run v sync you'll get tearing. that's just the way it is, if you run a high fps screen and fast cards you notice it less but it's still there.

I don't get screen tearing with v sync off.

Gregster · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:16

shankly1985 said:
I don't see any?

If you don't see it, it isn't a problem bud but that is exactly what I get on my 60Hz 1440P and I hate it with a passion.

shankly1985 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:32

Gregster said:
If you don't see it, it isn't a problem bud but that is exactly what I get on my 60Hz 1440P and I hate it with a passion.

I do notice the phone picking up the monitors LCD ripple effect. But I just don't see screen tear, quite the same on DirectX but when I look for it on dx I do see it.

Quite strange.

Rusty0611 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:35

People have different levels of sensitivity to it

.

Just like some can't handle < 40-50 FPS in online shooters and some are alright. It's about what you're accustomed to and what you're sensitive to

.

tommybhoy · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:48

No screen blur that I can see, but I don't have an aunty Mantle in my family, maybe I'm just showing bias.

@Shankly,

Wrong video to show.
That's recording blur not screen tearing, the phones camera can't keep up with the refresh rate, show them one of your firing range videos using screen capture tools.

shankly1985 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:51

tommybhoy said:
No screen blur that I can see, but I don't have an aunty Mantle in my family, maybe I'm just showing bias.

@Shankly,

Wrong video to show.
That's recording blur not screen tearing, the phones camera can't keep up with the refresh rate, show them one of your firing range videos using screen capture tools.

Yeah you right I forgot I done this one to get Borderless Recording with Crossfire.

Still dont see any.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy8t_T7si7s

Martini1991 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:53

Would a capture tool actually get the screen tear? From what I understand, it's the monitor, not the GPU causing the tear.

shankly1985 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:54

Martini1991 said:
Would a capture tool actually get the screen tear? From what I understand, it's the monitor, not the GPU causing the tear.

It does, Level Caps videos always show it.

Martini1991 · 10 Mar 2014 at 19:56

Interesting, I did some streaming to my Laptop , and a tear on my PC wasn't reflected on the laptop.

Just noticed you're 120HZ, so it's a different ball game too.

BS Dave · 10 Mar 2014 at 20:08

Kaapstad said:
I don't get screen tearing with v sync off.

Can you explain how fella?

I think you just can't see it because you get such insane fps.

if you don't have v sync then at some point the current frame will update half way down a screen refresh and if you're turning you'll get a tear.

If you have insane fps the tear if very small and you may well have more than one, hence you down notice the tearing.

if you have a 60 fps screen and you're getting 180 fps from your graphics cards you have 3 tears per screen refresh.

Final8y · 10 Mar 2014 at 20:14

I get tearing with mantle without Vsync.