Why are we letting convicted murders in to the country?

Danthus · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:16

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29251735

Police searching for 14-year-old Alice Gross are treating a 41-year-old man with a murder conviction as a suspect in her disappearance.

Arnis Zalkalns went missing a week after Alice and used the Grand Union Canal route to get to work.

Alice, from Hanwell, was last seen on CCTV cameras on 28 August by the same canal route in west London.

Mr Zalkalns served seven years in prison for murder in Latvia, after being convicted in 1998.

Police say he was arrested in London in 2009 for indecently assaulting a 14-year-old girl, but no further action was taken.

Mr Zalkalns was seen on CCTV on 28 August cycling along Brentford Lock at 16:00 BST, some 15 minutes after Alice walked that route. He was last seen on 3 September.

Detectives believe he is likely to have come across Alice as they were both going in the same direction, north along the canal towpath.

Can you imagine how this girls family will feel if it turns out he is involved.

cheesyboy · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:19

We didn't "let him in" - he's from the EU, so can go where he wants.

A lot of our serious criminals relocate to Spain. It gives and it takes.

scorza · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:22

cheesyboy said:
We didn't "let him in" - he's from the EU, so can go where he wants.

A lot of our serious criminals relocate to Spain. It gives and it takes.

Maybe that should be changed then? I also think Spain should have the right to say no entry to people they don't want in their country.

jh30uk · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:23

Ah that is all fine then, WTF has this 14 year olds parents got to complain about then? :rolleyes:

cheesyboy · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:27

scorza said:
Maybe that should be changed then? I also think Spain should have the right to say no entry to people they don't want in their country.

Letting criminals' actions set major policy for everyone else seems a bit silly, no? Freedom of labour movement is quite a big deal.

jh30uk said:
Ah that is all fine then, WTF has this 14 year olds parents got to complain about then?

And the subject of the thread is?

The girl is incidental to the point OP wishes to make. Blame him for cheapening her situation to make a political statement.

jh30uk · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:29

Actually I blame the immigrant who took her.

cheesyboy · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:32

jh30uk said:
Actually I blame the immigrant who took her.

Oh good, that's it then. Thread wrapped up.

Thanks for the insight.

ubern00b · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:32

Maybe you should wait to blame "the immigrant" until it is confirmed he actually took her? So easy to jump on a bandwagon...

jh30uk · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:35

So I have to blame the OP as cheesey says? :confused:

He is a convicted criminal regardless, USA and Canada do not let them in but we are too soft and PC. :rolleyes:

scorza · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:39

cheesyboy said:
Letting criminals' actions set major policy for everyone else seems a bit silly, no? Freedom of labour movement is quite a big deal.

It's definitely a big deal when it lets foreign criminals into this country to do crime. If people want to come to this country to work, and there's enough demand for that labour then fine, but make them get a visa first imo. Part of the visa process is a criminal records check and then decide whether or not to let them in.

cheesyboy · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:40

jh30uk said:
So I have to blame the OP as cheesey says?

He is a convicted criminal regardless, USA and Canada do not let them in but we are too soft and PC.

USA let them cross state borders though, which is more comparable to the EU open-borders setup.

arknor · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:52

jh30uk said:
So I have to blame the OP as cheesey says?

He is a convicted criminal regardless, USA and Canada do not let them in but we are too soft and PC.

you could be dying from ebola and you know our stupid government would let you in.

politicians don't care as long as these people aren't living near them

jh30uk · 18 Sep 2014 at 10:55

Gets them more voters.

Danthus · 18 Sep 2014 at 12:11

cheesyboy said:
Letting criminals' actions set major policy for everyone else seems a bit silly, no? Freedom of labour movement is quite a big deal.

And the subject of the thread is?

The girl is incidental to the point OP wishes to make. Blame him for cheapening her situation to make a political statement.

Totality · 18 Sep 2014 at 12:28

He wasn't on the run and had served his sentence. Should all people who have a criminal past be barred even if they served their sentence in full already so are meant to be reformed? Where would you draw the line?

jh30uk · 18 Sep 2014 at 12:29

At murder like he did and rape would do it.

I would not let anyone in be it criminal or saint, its a recession still and I bet he was not some highly skilled worker we are short of.

platypus · 18 Sep 2014 at 12:31

Because everyone is soft on immigration.

Vote UKIP to stop these murderers coming into our country and ~~taking our jobs~~killing our girls.

scorza · 18 Sep 2014 at 12:33

Totality said:
He wasn't on the run and had served his sentence. Should all people who have a criminal past be barred even if they served their sentence in full already so are meant to be reformed?

Doesn't sound unreasonable to me, so I'd draw the line there.

doofer · 18 Sep 2014 at 12:38

It's because our murderers are lazy and are content to sit there not murdering anyone but just sitting down the pub or watching Sky TV while claiming benefits, so we bring in hard working murders that don't cost as much as UK murderers which benefits our whole Country.

ZXSpectrum · 18 Sep 2014 at 12:41

They took our jerbs!