ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion

Dis86 · 16 May 2015 at 19:16

Mynight said:
Hand to hand combat? Can't america afford guns anymore?

Nah, we've all seen how isis prefer knives so the Americans thought they'd give them a fighting chance

scorza · 16 May 2015 at 19:31

Bet Obama is regretting caving into the "won't somebody think of the human rights" brigade now by promising to close Gitmo. That woman they've capture, the wife of the Islamic State deputy leader seems like a particularly vile piece of sub-humanity who would fully deserve being locked in a Cuban purgatory for the rest of her life. As it is, there's a bit of a legal dilemma about what to do with her since they can't hand her over to the Iraqi authorities again because of the yuman rights laws.

Mynight · 16 May 2015 at 19:34

I'm sure they have other facilities that aren't known they can send her to.

robgmun · 16 May 2015 at 20:17

scorza said:
Bet Obama is regretting caving into the "won't somebody think of the human rights" brigade now by promising to close Gitmo. That woman they've capture, the wife of the Islamic State deputy leader seems like a particularly vile piece of sub-humanity who would fully deserve being locked in a Cuban purgatory for the rest of her life. As it is, there's a bit of a legal dilemma about what to do with her since they can't hand her over to the Iraqi authorities again because of the yuman rights laws.

Oh don't worry, there's a **** ton of black sites we don't know about all over the world and she'll disappear down a black hole no one will ever find again. Gitmo is just the fluffy public version that everyone can see.

Skunkworks · 16 May 2015 at 20:19

In other news, the 3 teenage girls from London who joined ISIS may be trying escape and come back:

Reports from Iraq suggest three teenagers who had been married off to ISIS fighters have now gone on the run near the city of Mosul.

It has been suggested the trio may be Shamima Begum, Amira Abase and Kadiza Sultana, who disappeared from their homes in east London earlier this year.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...married-militants-Iraq-run-Isis-escaping.html

I don't fancy their chances if re-captured.

dowie · 16 May 2015 at 20:31

hope ISIS catches and executes them... other wannabe jihadis might then take note

arknor · 16 May 2015 at 20:33

I hope they get captured rather than come back to the uk with a government opening its arms to give them a big hug.

waspy88 · 16 May 2015 at 20:35

Thats the problem isn't it.. "ooh they didn't know what they were doing"

Imagine we stood for this crap when we were fighting the Nazis.

JohnnyG · 16 May 2015 at 20:39

Let them back in, they'll soon remember that the takeaways here aren't as good as those in Syria and run off again anyway.

scorza · 16 May 2015 at 20:48

Skunkworks said:
In other news, the 3 teenage girls from London who joined ISIS may be trying escape and come back:

I don't fancy their chances if re-captured.

Think it's been confirmed that those three girls haven't escaped and are 'safe and well'.

no_sleep_til · 16 May 2015 at 21:38

For those with facebook, Mosul eye is an excellent source of info and reporting on events relating to daesh (ISIS) within the city.

the operator of that account is not an ISIS/ISIL/Daesh fan

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mosul-Eye/552514844870022?fref=ts

RoboCod · 16 May 2015 at 22:23

no_sleep_til said:
For those with facebook, Mosul eye is an excellent source of info and reporting on events relating to daesh (ISIS) within the city.

the operator of that account is not an ISIS/ISIL/Daesh fan

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mosul-Eye/552514844870022?fref=ts

That makes for interesting reading. The peshmerga page is also handy to follow.

Destination · 16 May 2015 at 22:51

scorza said:
Think it's been confirmed that those three girls haven't escaped and are 'safe and well'.

Ah, they remain Axlotl tanks then do they?

dowie · 16 May 2015 at 23:40

no_sleep_til said:
For those with facebook, Mosul eye is an excellent source of info and reporting on events relating to daesh (ISIS) within the city.

the operator of that account is not an ISIS/ISIL/Daesh fan

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mosul-Eye/552514844870022?fref=ts

more importantly, what is with that cover photo?

Harlequin · 17 May 2015 at 14:53

don't worry - therasa may wants to get us out of that `annoying` human rights act

scorza · 18 May 2015 at 17:52

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32777138

Despite all the air-strikes, renewed/retrained Iraqi army, high profile decapitation attacks, the Islamic State has managed to capture Ramadi, capital of Anbar province in Iraq. Shia militias are preparing a counter-attack - in Sunni territory. This could get very messy.

RoboCod · 18 May 2015 at 18:07

scorza said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32777138

Despite all the air-strikes, renewed/retrained Iraqi army, high profile decapitation attacks, the Islamic State has managed to capture Ramadi, capital of Anbar province in Iraq. Shia militias are preparing a counter-attack - in Sunni territory. This could get very messy.

It is of no surprise. The Iraqi army is next to useless, they will turn and run at the slightest hint of danger. Uncoordinated, confused and lacking the heart to fight for what they are being told to fight. On top of that you have an opponent that holds the completely opposite traits.

Ramadhi, Mosul, Haditha, Hit, all cutting Al Asad air Base off. Then there is fallujah being highly contested and eventually Baghdad.

I would be Unsurprised to see nato boots showing a substantial presence once again sometime soon.

scorza · 18 May 2015 at 18:09

Meanwhile soft Western governments continue to fund them :mad:

Rroff · 18 May 2015 at 18:27

RoboCod said:
It is of no surprise. The Iraqi army is next to useless, they will turn and run at the slightest hint of danger. Uncoordinated, confused and lacking the heart to fight for what they are being told to fight. On top of that you have an opponent that holds the completely opposite traits.

Ramadhi, Mosul, Haditha, Hit, all cutting Al Asad air Base off. Then there is fallujah being highly contested and eventually Baghdad.

I would be Unsurprised to see nato boots showing a substantial presence once again sometime soon.

Its quite something to see the size of the Iraqi army on retreat... dunno how sizable IS forces are but thats a pretty significant force fleeing from them :S

If they take much more there is little stopping them taking Baghdad and genocide/massacre on a huge scale unless they don't want to face a cornered Iraqi army/someone else steps in.

RoboCod · 18 May 2015 at 19:02

Rroff said:
Its quite something to see the size of the Iraqi army on retreat... dunno how sizable IS forces are but thats a pretty significant force fleeing from them :S

If they take much more there is little stopping them taking Baghdad and genocide/massacre on a huge scale unless they don't want to face a cornered Iraqi army/someone else steps in.

A lot of civilians take up arms against them, forming their own militias. I think if they conducted a large offensive on Baghdad many of the civilians there would fight back. I also think Western forces would step in before it went that far, but then again I don't really know what would happen of course. Perhaps Iran will be the "heroes", but then the problem with any ME military intervening is the reality that it then just boils down to inter tribal fighting between conflicting sunnis and also shia. Iran have already stepped in in regions so it's all rather worrying.