Smiler rollercoaster at Alton Towers - carriage collision

thenewoc · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:15

Situation seems to have changed a bit then as yesterday...

Vicky's worried gran Lilian Cotton, 78, of Leyland, said surgeons had managed to save the teenagers legs after she was airlifted to hospital.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alton-towers-accident-critically-ill-5829569

thenewoc · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:16

Dimple said:
It is very strange that there is still a media blackout on this.

patient confidentiality

SexyGreyFox · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:18

thenewoc said:
patient confidentiality

Yes, it is what I do every day in my job BUT it's never stopped other major incidents from being reported in the News.

thenewoc · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:22

Dimple said:
Yes, it is what I do every day in my job BUT it's never stopped other major incidents from being reported in the News.

The relatives have probably been told to keep it zipped, pending legal proceedings.

itchy · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:31

MOOGLEYS said:
They say the ride got stuck in the same place 3 times on the same day ? I'm sure the only way to remove the cars from that part of the track if stuck is to unbolt from the track and crane them off but there has been no mention of a crane being used three times that day ?

Do you know if the cars have an onboard mechanical recovery device/motor? As that is the only way I would know how to retrieve a car without a crain! :confused:

itchy · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:32

thenewoc said:
The relatives have probably been told to keep it zipped, pending legal proceedings.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^This and more!

tbyeah · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:41

itchy said:
Not read it properly but it sounds very bad! To save legs!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...theme-park-reveals-remain-shut-fifth-day.html

Daily fail I know but it sounds bad.... and she gorgeous!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/06/19/295C20D300000578-0-image-a-29_1433615983917.jpg

Nice appropriate picture there from the DM.

SexyGreyFox · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:43

thenewoc said:
The relatives have probably been told to keep it zipped, pending legal proceedings.

OBVIOUSLY but there were a lot of people at the incident, a lot of people after the incident and many not bound by patient confidentiality.

MOOGLEYS · 7 Jun 2015 at 22:48

itchy said:
Do you know if the cars have an onboard mechanical recovery device/motor? As that is the only way I would know how to retrieve a car without a crain!

I have no idea but when they have been stuck in that point before they have been craned off. I'm wondering if they were stuck on brake points before and was able to make it around apart from the one that got stuck.

itchy · 7 Jun 2015 at 23:00

MOOGLEYS said:
I have no idea but when they have been stuck in that point before they have been craned off. I'm wondering if they were stuck on brake points before and was able to make it around apart from the one that got stuck.

But said car was suppose to be stuck at the bottom of the so called bat wing, no chance mech of recovery only crain.

It is a mad thing because I know for a fact rollercoasters run like clockwork.

Am not even going to say someone, because the software counts the time and number of cars on the track at anyone time. So something is seriously ducked either soft or hardware side!

People cannot crash coasters, why you think they shut loads down. Sod all to do with a single person! Its bad design as I said a good few post back. They defecating themselves ! Coaster designers, hard and software engineers and theme parks of course!

n111ck · 7 Jun 2015 at 23:50

It was actually stuck at the top of a hill hence the relatively low speed collision.

The silence on injuries has got to be compensation related.

itchy · 8 Jun 2015 at 00:03

n111ck said:
It was actually stuck at the top of a hill hence the relatively low speed collision.

The silence on injuries has got to be compensation related.

Am talking about the rouge car, how did the computer release the passenger car onto the track when it did not know where the rouge car was??? :confused:

Crazy stuff!! If it was old then yes but come on.

Its a just bloody NO! On a new 2014 coaster!! :rolleyes:

I will say it now, hard or software error.

Side note I hope all involved makes a speedy recovery!

n111ck · 8 Jun 2015 at 00:06

No, the stuck car was also on a peak part of the track - it failed to make it over and got stuck.

sprite1275 · 8 Jun 2015 at 07:10

I'm still wondering how the car that was stuck got stuck in the first place. I thought when these cars start the momentum keeps them going until it reaches the start again.

Deleted member 66701 · 8 Jun 2015 at 07:36

sprite1275 said:
I'm still wondering how the car that was stuck got stuck in the first place. I thought when these cars start the momentum keeps them going until it reaches the start again.

Could have had a bearing failure or another mechanical issues that slowed the car down just enough to stop it cresting.

ubersonic · 8 Jun 2015 at 08:18

Brake failure? I would assume the brakes are designed to fail closed not open /shrug.

stopper · 8 Jun 2015 at 10:47

itchy said:
Its a just bloody NO! On a new 2014 coaster!!

I will say it now, hard or software error.

Probably some thing as simple as a bad algorithm during the design stage.

scorza · 8 Jun 2015 at 10:54

Found out that the girl who is the most seriously injured is from my home town. Don't know why but it does make it hit home harder when you find out something like that.

Hagar · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:01

stopper said:
Probably some thing as simple as a bad algorithm during the design stage.

A £5 relay or limit switch?

Moothead2 · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:13

Looking at the rides carriage I'm surprised that it doesn't look to have any kind of shock absorption other than the frame at the front which obviously crumpled in this situation. Of all the potentially dangerous possibilities two trains colliding has to be one of the more obvious ones so I'm surprised it's not been taken into account.

Smiler rollercoaster at Alton Towers - carriage collision

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