Soldato
Believe it or not furniture prices have not changed since the 1980s!
Don't ask me why or how????
That's actually a good point.
AIRFARES also seem to have remained static.
Believe it or not furniture prices have not changed since the 1980s!
Don't ask me why or how????
And you apply that to all public sector workers?
Who's going to do those jobs then....it is a very valid concern he is expressing.
...and he'll be told that that the extra the boss needs to pay to make up the 'living wage' for the other workers means they won't be able to.
If you really believe businesses are going to think "we must pay our lowest paid workers more so we'll increase our costs even further by giving everyone above them a pay rise as well" is living in cloud cuckoo land.
There was a bloke on the radio this morning who works up north as a lorry driver for a small firm who is currently on £7.50 p/h. He said there are a couple of lads who work in their waste disposal yard who sort through waste all day and don't have the licence and responsibility he does.
Next year they'll get a significant pay rise meaning he'll be on just 30p p/h more than them and rightfully asked what was the point in doing the training to drive the lorries and take on those extra duties now.
Believe it or not furniture prices have not changed since the 1980s!
Don't ask me why or how????
It's obvious that they won't want to, but it's equally cloud cuckoo land for employers to think that all of their employees will be satisfied taking the same wage.
Some of my friends have been placed in similar positions by their companies.
'Would you like to become manager and take responsibility for x, y, and z and be on call for emergencies?'
'What's the pay rise?'
'10p per hour'
'I'm good, thanks.'
Point is, if you're not willing to pay people for extra stress / qualifications / effort then they're not going to take the jobs. OK, the old-timers are probably a bit stuck, but ultimately you've got to find an incentive for people to make the step up.
I find it so pointless. Increase in wage, increase in costs, increase in prices. The wage increase eventually just gets passed back onto the consumer. It doesn't actually change anything.
This now means changing your job adds the risk of no job security in your new job for at least 2 years. This is a big thing to give up unless the wage you can get is significantly higher to offset that risk.
Because the DFS one week sale has been on since the 80s
2 years is about right to start looking for a new position anyway. I've never stayed in the same job for 3 years, think the longest I managed was about 32 months before moving on.
Because the DFS one week sale has been on since the 80s
I see what you're saying and agree to an extent but that only really works if everyone is fired on March 31st 2016 and then is free to renegotiate their own role.
Over time things will adjust but there will be a long period where many people will see people with significantly less skills than them getting paid nearly what they do. Some people like what they do, like the security of the job they have and aren't the types to move jobs the second they feel an unfairness is introduced.
Lest we forget that in the last parliament, the coalition made it effectively legally to sack anyone that had been in their jobs for less than two years for any reason they like (outside those protected by the Equality Act. Race, gender, sexual orientation etc).
This now means changing your job adds the risk of no job security in your new job for at least 2 years. This is a big thing to give up unless the wage you can get is significantly higher to offset that risk.
...and he'll be told that that the extra the boss needs to pay to make up the 'living wage' for the other workers means they won't be able to.
If you really believe businesses are going to think "we must pay our lowest paid workers more so we'll increase our costs even further by giving everyone above them a pay rise as well" is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Wouldn't the next employer look at your CV and think "why employ this person if it's highly likely he'll bugger off in 2 years' time"?
The marketplace works both ways.
Let's say a business currently employs supervisors at £7.20/h. If that business chooses not to increase the supervisors' wage next year then two things will happen:
1. Their existing supervisors will feel devalued, demotivated and productivity will fall.
2. They'll struggle to find anyone to fill supervisor vacancies.
Eventually, the business will have to give the supervisors a meaningful pay rise that is representative of the extra responsibility. How long it takes depends on that business's tolerance for pain.
Some people like working to feel value and I've met plenty of people who take on supervisor roles for very little extra because they like the fact they become a pseudo boss and are happy with just the extra job title/perceived power.