They may be the only tricks he's "mastered" as he is weak in other areas and this is good enough as so far he has been un-opposed. When he comes up against others strong in the force these tricks will be useless.
** Star Wars Episode VII - SPOILERS WITHIN **
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They may be the only tricks he's "mastered" as he is weak in other areas and this is good enough as so far he has been un-opposed. When he comes up against others strong in the force these tricks will be useless.
Soldato
It was time for Luke to be found, a new Jedi needs training. So I'd say it was Luke using the force to bring R2 back online to reveal the map needed to find him. I suppose he could have just rocked up when ready, but the whole film was built around this map. He could have easily just moved on if he didn't want to be found. R2 only activated once Rey was there.
That was my take on it anyway
That was my take on it anyway
Soldato
No spoiler tag, just my honest opinion...
Abrams didn't try to put his mark on it, or make it his own. He gave us a fantastic movie that is thoroughly Star wars. More so than the prequels.
Abrams didn't try to put his mark on it, or make it his own. He gave us a fantastic movie that is thoroughly Star wars. More so than the prequels.
Soldato
^^Exactly. Plus at that stage in the film, he was compromised both physically and arguably mentally. Also there are plenty of Jedi that are good at one thing but not at others.
And with regards to his Lightsaber skills. Sure, he may have had training from Luke but Luke isn't the type to teach his students fighting skills. He'd have likely taught him about the philosophical aspect of the force, not how to master the use of the Lightsaber. The fact that Kylo Ren's lightsaber wasn't perfect suggests that.
Rey's skills with the Lightsaber weren't surprising given the staff was her weapon of choice. Finn's skills with it on the other hand I didn't quite understand.
My biggest gripe with the film was the Starkiller weapon. I understand with these films, you tend to have to throw Physics out of the window, but how do you explain something the size of a planet harvesting the energy of an entire star...
Overall, I think it was a solid film. It has the simplicity of the original trilogy. Episodes I-III confused the hell out of me when I watched them as a kid trying to figure out all the talks of trade federations and what not. The only thing that spoilt it was some noob posted a spoiler on the comments section of a totally unrelated YouTube video I was watching. That said, the spoiler was somewhat predictable but it had me thinking about it before it actually happened rather than be totally surprised by it...
And with regards to his Lightsaber skills. Sure, he may have had training from Luke but Luke isn't the type to teach his students fighting skills. He'd have likely taught him about the philosophical aspect of the force, not how to master the use of the Lightsaber. The fact that Kylo Ren's lightsaber wasn't perfect suggests that.
Rey's skills with the Lightsaber weren't surprising given the staff was her weapon of choice. Finn's skills with it on the other hand I didn't quite understand.
My biggest gripe with the film was the Starkiller weapon. I understand with these films, you tend to have to throw Physics out of the window, but how do you explain something the size of a planet harvesting the energy of an entire star...
Overall, I think it was a solid film. It has the simplicity of the original trilogy. Episodes I-III confused the hell out of me when I watched them as a kid trying to figure out all the talks of trade federations and what not. The only thing that spoilt it was some noob posted a spoiler on the comments section of a totally unrelated YouTube video I was watching. That said, the spoiler was somewhat predictable but it had me thinking about it before it actually happened rather than be totally surprised by it...
Caporegime
Just literally came out of the cinema 10 mins ago.
I think it is best best Star Wars movie, period.
First, we can write off the prequels...they are just bad.
The last 3 days I have watched 4, 5 & 6 everyday and this evening before I went to see VII I watched VI first so they are all very fresh in my mind. Long story short, I thought 4 (in modern standard) is a very average movie, Empire is a much better film, Jedi's entire plot revolves around destroying another Death Star, with the really slow section with the Ework half way through.
Force Awaken however takes the best of them and put it together, bit of Luke's journey, bit of the I am your father thing but twisted it backwards so now the son has gone bad. It all kinda work together, all held together by strong characters, especially in Daisy Ridley playing Rey. She nailed it. From the moment we see her I like her. Harrison Ford is also really good returning as Solo, I always think he is the best character/actor in the original too.
Yes, there are plot holes and the biggest one is how Rey becomes part Jedi master in the space of a few minutes. But I am willing to suspense the disbelief of that because I enjoyed the movie an awful lot. By giving that little bit a pass, everything else works for me and I am happy about that.
When the moment the LucasArts logo came up to the scrolling text intro, I had a smile on my face and just a great Star Wars movie, the best Star Wars movie. This totally expanded the Star Wars universe larger than it already is.
I am going to go see it again I think before the holiday ends.
First, we can write off the prequels...they are just bad.
The last 3 days I have watched 4, 5 & 6 everyday and this evening before I went to see VII I watched VI first so they are all very fresh in my mind. Long story short, I thought 4 (in modern standard) is a very average movie, Empire is a much better film, Jedi's entire plot revolves around destroying another Death Star, with the really slow section with the Ework half way through.
Force Awaken however takes the best of them and put it together, bit of Luke's journey, bit of the I am your father thing but twisted it backwards so now the son has gone bad. It all kinda work together, all held together by strong characters, especially in Daisy Ridley playing Rey. She nailed it. From the moment we see her I like her. Harrison Ford is also really good returning as Solo, I always think he is the best character/actor in the original too.
Yes, there are plot holes and the biggest one is how Rey becomes part Jedi master in the space of a few minutes. But I am willing to suspense the disbelief of that because I enjoyed the movie an awful lot. By giving that little bit a pass, everything else works for me and I am happy about that.
When the moment the LucasArts logo came up to the scrolling text intro, I had a smile on my face and just a great Star Wars movie, the best Star Wars movie. This totally expanded the Star Wars universe larger than it already is.
I am going to go see it again I think before the holiday ends.
Soldato
Just got back from Showcase in Leeds, got the the most expensive screening you can get, dunno what you call it. Imax 3D 360 surround sound electric recliner thingy ma bob...
All i can say is ....................
GET ME A NEW SET OF PANTS!!!!!
Its proper spectacular the 3d stuff when in POV mode with the X-Wings. Could actually watch it again tomorrow..
All i can say is ....................
GET ME A NEW SET OF PANTS!!!!!
Its proper spectacular the 3d stuff when in POV mode with the X-Wings. Could actually watch it again tomorrow..
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Can't agree more. We could sit here and pick holes at things all day long. But I sat through that with a huge grin on my face. Not sure on the best, but that's probably due to growing up and constant re-watches of the originals.
Will probably see again this week
Soldato
Just saw it...
Overall 8.5 / 10 from me. I would rank it 3rd behind ANH and ESB, slightly ahead of ROTJ. Not perfect, but a great start to the new era and enjoyed it immensely. Bring on the next decade \0/
Loved the new characters and the chemistry. Loved the writing. Loved the look of it.
Thought the soundtrack was forgettable and lacking a distinctive theme.
Thought the superweapon was a bit throw-away.
Thought Phasma was a let down. I know we'll see her again, but she did absolutely nothing to show she's a bad-a$$.
Hated the stupid monsters that escaped on the freighter. What the F was that all about, JJ ? It certainly wasn't SW
Thought the soundtrack was forgettable and lacking a distinctive theme.
Thought the superweapon was a bit throw-away.
Thought Phasma was a let down. I know we'll see her again, but she did absolutely nothing to show she's a bad-a$$.
Hated the stupid monsters that escaped on the freighter. What the F was that all about, JJ ? It certainly wasn't SW
Overall 8.5 / 10 from me. I would rank it 3rd behind ANH and ESB, slightly ahead of ROTJ. Not perfect, but a great start to the new era and enjoyed it immensely. Bring on the next decade \0/
Caporegime
Saw it again last night. Packed house 400 seats.
Deffo better the second time around.
Got to rethink some of the scenes and watch the fight scenes. I wish they had used more original sound effects. a lot are but not enough to satisfy me 100%.
I still think Snope is naff.
Deffo better the second time around.
Got to rethink some of the scenes and watch the fight scenes. I wish they had used more original sound effects. a lot are but not enough to satisfy me 100%.
I still think Snope is naff.
Man of Honour
Wait and see!
about R2 waking up, after watching it a second time it seemed to be that it was the presence of Rey nearby that caused it. Maybe it's the presence of Luke's sabre, which Rey is carrying, or maybe Rey herself... Maybe something else entirely, but it did come across that way on the second time around.
Also, doesn't matter how many people say they heard "Ben" being said before the confrontation on the weapon, it didn't happen
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Also, doesn't matter how many people say they heard "Ben" being said before the confrontation on the weapon, it didn't happen
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Associate
I kind of wanted to see some arm ripping if I'm honest.
All in all, I loved it. It is StarWars all over again and I cannot wait to see what is to come next.
All in all, I loved it. It is StarWars all over again and I cannot wait to see what is to come next.
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Was great watching the new cast on graham Norton last night. John boyega just seems to play himself, what a great guy. Daisy Ridley seems very uncomfortable, but it is refreshing seeing two new stars in the making that are not full of themselves.
I want to see the film again. The 3D flight scenes were insanely good.
I want to see the film again. The 3D flight scenes were insanely good.
OMG, when those x wings come in from over the water. Would be good to see the rest of the fleet now though? So many spine tingling moments.
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Can't say I noticed a discernible difference - what I will say, in spoilers just in case, is that
once the ship is found it features a lot in the rest of the film and there are some truly awesome, beautiful sequences in TFA featuring everybody's favourite piece of junk 
Agreed - given the years they'd been together, Chewy's rage at Han's death should have been made a lot more of, especially in light of how angry he got in ESB when Han was about to be carbon-freezed. Instead, all we got was a few roars, a bit of laser fire and later, an admittedly moving shot of the big guy with his head in his hands
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Eh ?
yeah noticed that too, he went crazy for a second and then just forgot or went oh well, where is my sandwich. Thought at the very least he would give Leia a hug or something when he returned. He can't talk but had a lot more options to express himself, still enjoyed them all returning massively
. Thought at the very least he would give Leia a hug or something when he returned. He can't talk but had a lot more options to express himself, still enjoyed them all returning massively