Do you really have to make a debate of every small opinion or throwaway comment that people make? You need an in-depth analysis of why he thought the pilots, that we all know had very limited screen time, were cool?
Poll: Poll: Did The Force Awakens live up to the hype?
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Do you really have to make a debate of every small opinion or throwaway comment that people make? You need an in-depth analysis of why he thought the pilots, that we all know had very limited screen time, were cool?
It's a discussion forum. I'm being polite, and probing for the reasons behind his comment.
What do you want? That no-one post unless it's gushing praise for the film?
No you're not being "polite", you're actually being pretty irritating by trying to start discussion about inconsequential things that don't even warrant in-depth discussion.
And your last statement is a tad dense as you have already read and responded to my multiple criticisms of the film.
It's like you're taking the whole "I shall challenge this film" thing to a crusade-like level of tedium.
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I liked it a lot. In the end with these things I ask myself "Did I enjoy it?" Doesn't matter if it's good, bad, cheap, expensive, hyped, etc, if any form of entertainment gives me that important "enjoyment factor", then it was good as far as I am concerned.
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Well said. A lot of people do that here though, not just him. When I mentioned I enjoyed the prequels more than TFA, people are like
As movie's go, TFA was enjoyable. But it did not meet my personal expectations from a Star Wars movie. I just did not connect or care about any of the characters this time round. That may change when I no doubt watch it again some time in the future again.
But as you say, each to their own. No point belittling people about what movie they enjoyed more.
I think that's where views are divided though. I found the film average but at the time was sufficiently entertained by it in the same way I would a Jason Statham or Nicolas Cage film for example. It's been a few days since I saw it and I've forgotten most of it, there weren't too many memorable moments.
The hype for this film was of stupid proportions, and 75% of this poll is saying that the film lived up to it. With so many flaws how can that be possible? To me a rating of 9/10 suggests it's a timeless masterpiece which it's not. The film and its proponents must be subject to criticism lest the filmmakers deliver two more of the same.
I remember when the prequel films came out and they received a lot of praise. But people were really in denial about their shortcomings and it was only once the hype died down that they were retrospectively re-evaluated.
I would argue that the movie DID live up to the hype, because it was still a decent Star Wars movie. Was it amazing and flawless? No? 9/10? No, and I am the first to criticise.
But it was a damn fine first effort by a director who chose to take such a heavy burden on board, and in the end he pulled it off. That has to be taken into consideration imo, especially as the original creator couldn't even make half-decent movies with Episodes I-III.
Same thing happened with Promethius.
Anybody who criticised that film in the first weeks of release were torn apart by Scott fans and Alien fans alike.
These days, it's much harder to find people defending that film, and people are more openly critical of it.
Soldato
Their banter was what I expected form professional Pilots especially Greg Gunberg however the Poe Matey's comments and mannerisms in the cockpit were that of a 5 year old with his favorite toy playing at being a pilot.
His character was too immature for the role he was supposed to be playing.
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Your point being? Are you suggesting that RS can't do Sci-fi based on one movie?
(Ridley Scott)
2015 The Martian
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2013 The Vatican (TV Movie)
2012/I Prometheus
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2008 Body of Lies
2007 American Gangster
2006 A Good Year
2005 All the Invisible Children (segment "Jonathan")
2005 Kingdom of Heaven
2003 Matchstick Men
2001 Black Hawk Down
2001 Hannibal
2000 Gladiator
1997 G.I. Jane
1996 White Squall
1993 The King of Ads (Documentary) (segments "Chanel No. 5 'I Don't Want' commercial", "Pepsi-Cola 'Spaceship' Commercial")
1992 1492: Conquest of Paradise
1991 Thelma & Louise
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- If He Hollers, Let Him Go (1969)
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1966 Thirty-Minute Theatre (TV Series) (1 episode)
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1965 Boy and Bicycle (Short)
JJ Abrams
2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens
2013 Star Trek Into Darkness
2011 Super 8
2010 Undercovers (TV Series) (1 episode)
- Pilot (2010)
2009 Star Trek
2009 Anatomy of Hope (TV Movie)
2007 The Office (TV Series) (1 episode)
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2006 Jimmy Kimmel Live! (TV Series) (guest director - 1 episode)
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- The Telling (2003)
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- Truth Be Told (2001)
2004 Lost (TV Series) (2 episodes)
- Pilot: Part 2 (2004)
- Pilot: Part 1 (2004)
1999 Felicity (TV Series) (2 episodes)
- Todd Mulcahy: Part 2 (1999)
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Ridley Scott is 100 times the Director JJ Abrams could ever dream of being. Prometheus ultimately didn't work but it was largely down to the script. The Martian is a prime example of Scott on point.
I enjoyed TFA but it's no classic. It's a homage piece. Would rate it lower than Revenge of the Sith myself. I predict that people's estimation of this film will change as time goes by and the hype fades. It really just plays like a pastiche of A New Hope. Rey was great though and it was genuinely funny at times. But it's nothing special.
Prometheus is a good example. I would add Avatar to that list, many people got sucked in to the hype but in hindsight it wasn't that great.
The thing about Avatar though was not the film itself.But the experience of the technology and visuals.
Cutting edge at the time.
People never went the cinema for the story...they went to expereince the 3D.
TFA is different...As its all about the story and its a shame it didn't really have one.
Soldato
He hated all transformers movies
It was the first 3D film I saw, and agree the technology was a selling point for me although I hoped for a good scifi film too. However, the dazzling visuals masquaraded the lacklustre film in a similar way to the nostalgia clouding people's views of TFA. It prevents people from thinking objectively about what they just watched.
I read somewhere he had changed his mind on the first one..
He recently said He likes Shia Labeouf
Soldato
I read somewhere he had changed his mind on the first one..
He recently said He likes Shia Labeouf
Who doesn't like Shia Labeouf these days? He's brilliantly nuts!
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More than the hype tbh. Absolutely brilliant film.
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