The Division. Are we interested?

deFiniLoGy · 22 May 2016 at 12:27

Got a question for the experienced...

So I currently have a 162 HE MP-5 but rubbish 89 ACR-E & 89 M1A.

Should I continue grinding dailies hoping to get a HE AR/MR drop or should I get a blueprint from BoO?

Or should I forcus on my SMG first and get the 183 ACP blueprint at BoO anyway?

JediFragger · 22 May 2016 at 12:30

Twirlywoos said:
Minimum should be the armour cap at this stage which is 65%. If I have done my Math correctly then I should automatically hit 75% when the update comes, DZ8 is going to be Hell

I was at 55% for a long time even though I had good health, was going down more often than a cheap hooker!!! :eek:

Twirlywoos · 22 May 2016 at 12:31

Gregster & Jedi watch this video.

TLDR; Going from 65% to 75% Armour increases toughness to around 114K .

Raiden85 · 22 May 2016 at 12:36

Twirlywoos said:
Minimum should be the armour cap at this stage which is 65%. If I have done my Math correctly then I should automatically hit 75% when the update comes, DZ8 is going to be Hell

My armour is at 55% at the moment, never had it passed that but I can still take a decent amount of damage from NPC's before I go down (excluding shot gunners

). A few gear pieces are are holding me back a bit, could probably hit about 60% if I could replace them.

I get 21% health on every kill so that's why I run in and kill as fast as I can rambo style

Going to miss soloing DZ5 and 6 for a bit due to the tougher enemies, but as the shot gunners and snipers are getting nerfed it might be ok soloing. Will soon find out how long I last Tuesday

That toughness stat should hopefully be a nice improvement over how things are done now, should hopefully makes things easier to see how much damage you can take while swapping things out in real time.

Twirlywoos said:
Gregster & Jedi watch this video.

TLDR; Going from 65% to 75% Armour increases toughness to around 114K .

Looking at that, with 83k health and 55% armour I should be on or very close to 200k in toughness.

Should be back on by 5:30pm after work.

GAM8LE · 22 May 2016 at 12:36

I was checking that out last night after Greg mentioned toughness. I can probably get 70% out of my build at the moment, but have a replacement tacticians set which will give me 75% based on my calculations, but it drops other stats a bit.

Will be on soon

GAM8LE · 22 May 2016 at 12:38

deFiniLoGy said:
Got a question for the experienced...

So I currently have a 162 HE MP-5 but rubbish 89 ACR-E & 89 M1A.

Should I continue grinding dailies hoping to get a HE AR/MR drop or should I get a blueprint from BoO?

Or should I forcus on my SMG first and get the 183 ACP blueprint at BoO anyway?

What are your stats like firearms etc?

I would get an smg now, as it will help with grinding pve missions.

What level are you also? Could add some people off here to run more challenge mode missions for more HE drops then run some dz.

deFiniLoGy · 22 May 2016 at 12:47

-Gamble- said:
What are your stats like firearms etc?

I would get an smg now, as it will help with grinding pve missions.

What level are you also? Could add some people off here to run more challenge mode missions for more HE drops then run some dz.

So just ignore my crappy MR & AR for the time being?

Twirlywoos · 22 May 2016 at 12:48

Radeon85 said:
My armour is at 55% at the moment, never had it passed that but I can still take a decent amount of damage from NPC's before I go down (excluding shot gunners ). A few gear pieces are are holding me back a bit, could probably hit about 60% if I could replace them.

I get 21% health on every kill so that's why I run in and kill as fast as I can rambo style

Going to miss soloing DZ5 and 6 for a bit due to the tougher enemies, but as the shot gunners and snipers are getting nerfed it might be ok soloing. Will soon find out how long I last Tuesday

That toughness stat should hopefully be a nice improvement over how things are done now, should hopefully makes things easier to see how much damage you can take while swapping things out in real time.

Looking at that, with 83k health and 55% armour I should be on or very close to 200k in toughness.

Should be back on by 5:30pm after work.

I will only be able to judge the toughness stat and what is a good middle ground between exotic damage resilience, shock resistance and burn resistance etc when 1.2 comes out and I attempt HVT, DZ8 and even some PVP.

The new Gearsets will mess everything up for me anyway

but I will be able to judge on Tuesday how much damage I can take from a level 34 sniper and shotgunner.

JediFragger · 22 May 2016 at 13:17

Cheers for the vid Twirly, helped to explain

I have no 240 Gear

Gregster · 22 May 2016 at 13:20

Twirlywoos said:
Gregster & Jedi watch this video.

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TLDR; Going from 65% to 75% Armour increases toughness to around 114K .

Nice one and makes simple sense thanks

TheF34RChannel · 22 May 2016 at 13:28

Gregster said:
Bit new to these style games, so how would I get it higher?

- Get gear pieces with more armor on them
- Via gear mods with an armor bonus

Toughness formula: Health (no comma) / (100 - armor mitigation (comma)) x 100 = Toughness.

neil_g · 22 May 2016 at 13:46

Just had the craziest of manhunts. 4 rogues hauled up in the underground carpark in dz1 and the rest of the server just charging on in. Was chaos I think everyone was rogue by the time the manhunt was over

JediFragger · 22 May 2016 at 13:58

Come oooooooooooon 201+ DZ, I need better kit

deFiniLoGy · 22 May 2016 at 14:24

End up grabbing the purple M1A from BoO before it restocked lol

Finally not so crappy PvE setup!

Bigmender · 22 May 2016 at 14:39

ED209 said:
Has anyone used the vector yet from BoO?

I have the funds but not too sure if its worth it. I am currently using a 163 MP5 ST

The Vector from Boo is not worth it only 1 damage talent on it. Pretty rubbish like all the other weapons from BoO

ED209 · 22 May 2016 at 15:03

Bigmender said:
The Vector from Boo is not worth it only 1 damage talent on it. Pretty rubbish like all the other weapons from BoO

thanks a lot, will pass on it then

deFiniLoGy · 22 May 2016 at 15:26

Bigmender said:
The Vector from Boo is not worth it only 1 damage talent on it. Pretty rubbish like all the other weapons from BoO

Hmm... So should I be getting the 182 ACP blueprint and try my luck?

Gregster · 22 May 2016 at 15:28

deFiniLoGy said:
Hmm... So should I be getting the 182 ACP blueprint and try my luck?

Yer, if you get a decent roll, the Vector is a sweet gun. I still use one from time to time and look for rolls like Vicious and Brutal.

Gregster · 22 May 2016 at 15:30

TheF34RChannel said:
- Get gear pieces with more armor on them
- Via gear mods with an armor bonus

Toughness formula: Health (no comma) / (100 - armor mitigation (comma)) x 100 = Toughness.

I switched to another vest that has much higher armour and that gave me 89K health with 65% mitigation.

deFiniLoGy · 22 May 2016 at 15:58

Gregster said:
Yer, if you get a decent roll, the Vector is a sweet gun. I still use one from time to time and look for rolls like Vicious and Brutal.

Lol. RNG is such a headache.

Just bought the blueprint and crafted one, pretty **** roll but this is a start