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Here ya go:-
Good to see the Brexiters being prepared and getting the excuses in early!
MP Jo Cox murdered in West Yorkshire [Thread title edited]
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Here ya go:-
Good to see the Brexiters being prepared and getting the excuses in early!
How are you going to work that out?
There's not going to be an option on the ballot of 'Remain - decided for by the murder of that MP'
But I guess you don't need any evidence for your wildly paranoid views
Caporegime
Tainted? Let me get this straight: someone who supports Leave went out and murdered a pro-Remain MP while shouting the rhetoric of the racist right and you think that it is Remain that is "tainted" by this? O_o
You're the one claiming that a Remain win is a "win for terrorism" and that any potential Remain win is "tainted". I think a biblical quote is in order: "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye" - Matthew 7:5
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Soldato
Really?
If remain win, you only win because of xxx or yyy or rigged but if brexit wins, it is well deserved?
Save it for your kids footie game and stay away from the polling centres if you are going to take this attitude. People with this attitude froth at the mouth when someone questions democracy but if their solution is not the one chosen, then all sorts of fuss is kicked up.
What sort of biased viewing glass do you have to look through and find 5 different kinds of spin that this is the fault of remain or that this will positively effect remain or that remain had planned this?
If remain win, you only win because of xxx or yyy or rigged but if brexit wins, it is well deserved?
Save it for your kids footie game and stay away from the polling centres if you are going to take this attitude. People with this attitude froth at the mouth when someone questions democracy but if their solution is not the one chosen, then all sorts of fuss is kicked up.
What sort of biased viewing glass do you have to look through and find 5 different kinds of spin that this is the fault of remain or that this will positively effect remain or that remain had planned this?
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Soldato
Hardly, peoples minds have been decided for a long while. Do you know ANYONE that has changed opinion over the murder?
What reasoning is there behind basing you opinion on what a right wing nutcase carried out?
A thousand shameful strategies have taken place this campaign, you can argue that the general portrayal of refugees as rapists, murderers and other kinds of criminals have lead to an increase in hatred toward them and denial of safe resident anywhere. God knows what this attitude has costed the innocents among them.
Also regardless of what effects democracy, as long as the general public make the choice, it is still democracy.
I wont ask you to apologise for the murderer since you have no affiliation with them except for wanting to leave, the same way you should not associate remain with anyone who is exploiting the death of Jo Cox to further their agenda.
What reasoning is there behind basing you opinion on what a right wing nutcase carried out?
A thousand shameful strategies have taken place this campaign, you can argue that the general portrayal of refugees as rapists, murderers and other kinds of criminals have lead to an increase in hatred toward them and denial of safe resident anywhere. God knows what this attitude has costed the innocents among them.
Also regardless of what effects democracy, as long as the general public make the choice, it is still democracy.
I wont ask you to apologise for the murderer since you have no affiliation with them except for wanting to leave, the same way you should not associate remain with anyone who is exploiting the death of Jo Cox to further their agenda.
Caporegime
Well, actually it looks like the polls were swinging back before the murder although it's essentially impossible to be sure. It was widely expected that there would be a swing back to Remain close to the vote, anyway, because this is the pattern you see in many referendums - as the vote gets close, the status quo option enjoys a pick up in support.
We can't say for sure whether Jo Cox's murder is influencing the polls, and when the vote comes it we won't be able to say for sure whether it made any difference. If it does, well there are worse tributes to a woman who's last article was an argument to vote Remain.
Soldato
Likely the swing is either because her article was googled far more recently because of the media attention surrounding her death or that the undecided have swayed to the 'stay as is' option as they normally do approaching a big vote deadline.
Man of Honour
You're making an argument based on trying to assert a moral equivalence, amigafan2003 is stating the legal definition of what is or is not murder. If you both stick to your position then this just continues to go round in circles because you're looking at a different viewpoint to describe the same action.
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Getting excuses in before the results? If remain win, it is because most votes were cast for remain. Reasons and motivations are completely irrelevant.
But I voted weeks ago (remain). So if my vote was because of this murder but the murder hadn't happened yet then..... inception brainsplode!
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Sure there are people with already rigidly fixed opinions who won't be affected on either side but there are plenty more in the middle who are undecided either way and something like this could be enough to tip the balance.
That ******* in the dock couldn't have done a better job for the Remain campaign if he tried, which is exactly the opposite of what he intended.
Soldato
It seems that people on both sides can only deter people from their cause, the way the campaigns have headed. Whoever set the tone of negativity ruined this vote before the campaigns started
Everyone seems to be playing an incredible convincing double agent
Everyone seems to be playing an incredible convincing double agent
Caporegime
The special commons sitting is on now on BBC parliament.