Shots Fired in Munich Shopping Centre

Dis86 · 22 Jul 2016 at 20:55

ScoTTyBEEE said:
Which one?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

That one. That's why the Americans sometimes need to use forces like the SAS

Arazi · 22 Jul 2016 at 20:55

Got to love the media advising not to post information from the area on social media etc, but they broadcast all of it, wtf?

ScoTTyBEEE · 22 Jul 2016 at 20:55

Rroff said:
US SF and UK work closely together quite frequently both in warzones and other incidents.

That does not suggest there are jobs the SAS are more capable of

SquirrelMadness · 22 Jul 2016 at 20:56

FoxEye said:
Surely it's terrorism regardless of who did it. You don't have to be Islamic to be a terrorist (but it <snip>).

Terrorism is forcing your ideology over others by using violence (killing), so it doesn't include the lone shootings you see in America.

ScoTTyBEEE · 22 Jul 2016 at 20:57

Dis86 said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

That one. That's why the Americans sometimes need to use forces like the SAS

That happened almost 40 years ago. I think things have moved on since then. The SAS are not some mythical god like force, unapposed amongst other western nations. France, German, US - they all have equally equivalent special forces. We've all had plenty of practice for the past 20 years in the M.E to hone our skills.

SquirrelMadness · 22 Jul 2016 at 20:58

Arazi said:
Got to love the media advising not to post information from the area on social media etc, but they broadcast all of it, wtf?

Probably in case of the shooter keeping track police locations being fed on his social media accounts.

ScoTTyBEEE · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:04

SquirrelMadness said:
Probably in case of the shooter keeping track police locations being fed on his social media accounts.

pretty sure police locations at this point are 'everywhere'

RoboCod · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:05

ScoTTyBEEE said:
That happened almost 40 years ago. I think things have moved on since then. The SAS are not some mythical god like force, unapposed amongst other western nations. France, German, US - they all have equally equivalent special forces. We've all had plenty of practice for the past 20 years in the M.E to hone our skills.

Indeed. I'm all for a bit of national pride in our armed forces (for once) but most nations have very effective and professional forces that are designed to combat exactly this kind of problem. They're not on some hot line bat phone right now receiving instruction on how to do their job.

Anyway.... Back to the tragedy that is unfolding. The news is really sketchy at the minute. No one seems to know the real facts right now. It's all assumption based.

Screeeech · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:06

Is there any indication as to whether this is Islamic terrorism, or a far right maniac like Brevik ?

estebanrey · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:07

SquirrelMadness said:
Witnesses said that the gunman screamed 'I'm German' and '**** foreigners' before shooting.

ISIS will still claim responsibility

dowie · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:09

SquirrelMadness said:
Witnesses said that the gunman screamed 'I'm German' and '**** foreigners' before shooting.

If this is true then today I become a conspiracy theorist. This sounds like exactly the type of thing the current German government would orchestrate.

initial (supposed) witness statements are often crap with these things... another witness has apparently claimed he shouted allahu akbar

we don't really know either way just yet

RoboCod · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:10

dowie said:
Police no?

Have only seen footage of one gunman so far... despite the reports of up to three

Yep. Closer inspection reveals it isn't the same guy who was at McDonald's + a black guy (as I initially thought).

NoobCannon · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:10

Im taking bets on one of the folowing options from reading this thread

1. Yet another muslim nutjob

2. A gernan non muslim nutjob sick of the muslim nutjobs and singling them out (doesnt seem likley)

3. A greek orthadox person

bingham67 · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:11

Austria stepped up its security on the border with Germany.

uber soldat · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:12

bingham67 said:
Austria stepped up its security on the border with Germany.

Not for the 1st time.

Screeeech · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:12

The guy who came out of Mcdonalds didn't seem too bothered about singling anyone out, he just pointed at a bunch of people running away and unloaded a clip,

He also had a weird stagger/limp - which seemed a bit strange, I wonder if he was on drugs or something *shrugs*

datalol-jack · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:13

NoobCannon said:
Im taking bets on one of the folowing options from reading this thread

1. Yet another muslim nutjob

2. A gernan non muslim nutjob sick of the muslim nutjobs and singling them out (doesnt seem likley)

3. A greek orthadox person

4. Life's so bad it can't get any worse -- hey murder'll learn 'em.

ScoTTyBEEE · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:14

Screeeech said:
The guy who came out of Mcdonalds didn't seem too bothered about singling anyone out, he just pointed at a bunch of people running away and unloaded a clip,

He also had a weird stagger/limp - which seemed a bit strange, I wonder if he was on drugs or something *shrugs*

Drugs don't make you limp unless at the point of barely walking.

Source: Taken drugs

Jokester · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:15

datalol-jack said:
4. Life's so bad it can't get any worse -- hey murder'll learn 'em.

Murder suicide is a possibility tbh.

ScoTTyBEEE · 22 Jul 2016 at 21:15

datalol-jack said:
4. Life's so bad it can't get any worse -- hey murder'll learn 'em.

5. Real Amish