BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

[jpaul]

Good luck getting the £49 activation charge back , for 48hrs delay; I had two weeks delay with plusnet and they refunded only a months BB
(I guess you can tell them it is critical for your business)

Your 52MB Unlimited plan at £10.99 is better than just £12 (reduced from £20) I can see, thought it had been £12 for last week, but maybe there is region specific charging
Does the Youview basic box record ?

Can you actually refuse their smarthub and use an existing plusnet one say ?
(that has been working fine for me, and also if I can avoid additional charges if I need to terminate before 12 months , that would save £65 )

 

[Upgrade]

Just placed the order, similar to Hyper, but went through TopCashBack.
Never used it before, hopefully it was done correctly (?)

 

[Type_R]

Well they gave me £10 (one month BB) back for 48 HR delay. I didn't lie, I don't use it for business, just my sanity!

 

[Type_R]

Can someone help me find my line stats in the smart hub menu please. I can't find them anywhere. I have basic up/down sync but no noise and attentuation numbers?

 

[DragonQ]

I didn't think you can see them on the Home Hub?

 

[Swifty55]

Can someone help me find my line stats in the smart hub menu please. I can't find them anywhere. I have basic up/down sync but no noise and attentuation numbers?

Advanced Settings > Technical Log.

 

[Type_R]

Advanced Settings > Technical Log.

Perfect thank you

Data rate:
10.00 kbps / 43.95 kbps
Maximum data rate:
9999 / 43948
Noise margin:
8.4 / 6.1
Line attenuation:
22.2

 

[jpaul]

Do you need to look/note-down these statistics regularly to see if anything adverse is happening on your line, like DLM

If your line suffered a temporary problem and no issues occur again then the DLM system will act to improve the speed of the service. This would typically be after 48 hours of stable service.
If the DLM system improves the line and a problem returns it would double the time of required stability (within thresholds) before it attempted to improve the performance of the service again, up to a maximum of 64 days

Could not find any detailed explanation of how this might work with BT/adsl2+

personally
SNR Margin (1 dB): 19.8 31.0
Attenuation (1 dB): 10.0 6.0
Output Power (1 dBm): 19.8 10.1
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 11780 1316
Rate (Kbps): 8128 448 0 0

 

[Swifty55]

Do you need to look/note-down these statistics regularly to see if anything adverse is happening on your line, like DLM

Could not find any detailed explanation of how this might work with BT/adsl2+

personally
SNR Margin (1 dB): 19.8 31.0
Attenuation (1 dB): 10.0 6.0
Output Power (1 dBm): 19.8 10.1
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 11780 1316
Rate (Kbps): 8128 448 0 0

ADSL 2+ you can request the DLM to be turned off. Fibre you cannot.

 

[Steedie]

Getting BT to sort the box in my house for FTTP is driving me nuts in my new build

Just want my internet sorted. Can I expect to see much of a difference with fibre direct to the property instead of a standard FTTC connection?

 

[Gammawolf]

If you got decent FTTC then imo not much. For your average person/house its diminishing returns when going past a stable 80mbps for all but very specific tasks.

In other news some initial pricing for G.fast was released by OR

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-330mbps-capable-g-fast-broadband-pilot.html

 

[V_R]

I've randomly lost about 5Mb off my download. My profile is fine hasn't changed from the max its always been for the last 4-5 years I've had FTTC on a stable line about 150m from the cabinet.

Plusnet can't see any issue. They said 'I'm sync'ed at 75Mb'

Its almost like I'm capped at 69.5 or 70Mb according to Speedtest.net.


Any obvious ideas chaps? Crosstalk maybe?

Going to reset my router etc this weekend see if it makes a difference as I'm beginning to wonder if it could be on my end. Asus N66U with Merlin FW FWTW.

 

[HEADRAT]

I wouldn't reset your router DLM might reduce your profile

 

[Cosimo]

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-330mbps-capable-g-fast-broadband-pilot.html

Good news!

I presume that this will requite new hardware to be added to existing FTTC cabinets?

 

[HEADRAT]

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-g-fast-broadband-cabinet-extension-pod.html

 

[ChrisD.]

The trial would have to be in bloody Cheltenham and not Gloucester!

 

[Meatball]

So this would not work in many rural areas where lines are long (800m+)

I hate to think how much money Openreach must waste trialling and buying equipment that sweats ancient copper! The BDUK focus on FTTC instead of FTTP is really disappointing. My parents address was upgraded from 1Mb ADSL2+ to 38Mbit (MAX) thanks to the rollout, but no doubt it'll be stuck at this speed for a very long time now and become obsolete.

 

[Caged]

That is one ugly cabinet

 

[parityboy]

@thread

So we have:

FTTC - 38Mb/10Mb, 52Mb/10Mb, 76Mb/20Mb
G.fast - 160Mb/30Mb, 330Mb/50Mb

Something really doesn't ring right...how about 160Mb/40Mb and 320Mb/80Mb? Oh, and while you're at it, how about line-selective profile flipping? That way I could bond two lines and have 400Mb/s symmetric...how about it, OR?

 

[Caged]

They're a business and Ethernet circuits make good money