Soldato
In the UK (which this thread isn't about) no, broader afield there are recent of examples of Christian based terrorism.
Is Islam compatible with atheism/lack of belief ?
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In the UK (which this thread isn't about) no, broader afield there are recent of examples of Christian based terrorism.
All of those need wider context from the chapter they are in - same as many quotes used abstractly from the Quran. Regardless of whether you ascribe to the whole new testament thing or not.
Caporegime
Except it's not.
Christians, as their name suggests follow the teachings and examples of Christ which are recounted in the NT.
Religion is nothing but a cosy blanket for weak minded individuals who can't accept their own mortality, waste the precious time you have on this earth all you want when it comes your time to pass on you'll be just like the billions upon billions that have passed already, you'll simply be DEAD
Enjoy the bank holiday, lets hope the sun stays out for us all
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Poppycock! Christianity follows the bible not just the NT.
Both the Old and New Testaments are considered of equal importance. However it is true to say that modern religious education focuses much more on the NT but that is only because the OT is all fire and brimstone whereas in the NT it is all about parables to make it more relevant in modern society.
Soldato
Again, the NT doesn't superseded the OT, Christ even talks about "not coming to abolish the old laws but to uphold them". Christ is god, he therefore wrote both books anyway, his second coming also suggests every non believer will perish.
*I am out of this thread now though, I have a self imposed rule to stay away from them on OCUK and wish I hadn't posted. Have fun, the outcome will be predicable.
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Japan, but it's impossible to tell how many Muslims live there due to the government not asking for peoples beliefs to be recorded.
Caporegime
This would be the same Christ who said he didn't come to do away with the law - the Old Testament - but to fulfil it, yes? Or the same Christ who fulfilled lots of prophecies in the Old Testament? Or who himself read and studied Old Testament scriptures? Whose disciples sent letters quoting and explaining Old Testament scriptures? Whose disciples said that all scripture was the word of God?
That Christ, yeah?
indeed, it is quite common on here - 'what about the Westboro baptist church', 'what about those bhuddists in Burma - see bhuddists are just as bad'.. as if any of the issues citied are anywhere near the scale of the problems faced from both radical and conservative Islam
Japan doesn't fit either of the categories mentioned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ULsS_0Oko
This is quite incredible. Watch the video. Who is delusional here - the one with glasses, or the one without ?
This is quite incredible. Watch the video. Who is delusional here - the one with glasses, or the one without ?
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The older I get the more I see fundamental incompatibility.
The more I also sees that once it holds a country it doesn't go away.
The more I also sees that once it holds a country it doesn't go away.
Soldato
No it's not compatible with other beliefs, religious or atheist. At the very core the ultimate goal is to impose Sharia law all over the world.
And I fear they will succeed.
This is not like other religions, anyone dare criticise anything remotely to do with Islam is labelled a racist of a bigot by liberals. Most of these of which have no clue of what they are opposing. PC has gone crazy and I'm worried for the future.
And I fear they will succeed.
This is not like other religions, anyone dare criticise anything remotely to do with Islam is labelled a racist of a bigot by liberals. Most of these of which have no clue of what they are opposing. PC has gone crazy and I'm worried for the future.
Yes, just like Christianity/Judaism/etc are.
The issue arises when nutjobs take any religious book literally and use it to self excuse/rationalise their own hatred.
People have been killed "in the name" of every major religion, hell atheism too, doesn't make it the fault of that religion just the lunatics who took ancient teachings literally.
Caporegime
They will still demand halal, hijabs, special treatment based upon religious justification.
They will still import wives/husbands from Pakistan/Bangladesh and maybe imams from Saudi Arabia.
Basically Islam has to come first in their life's and will mean that they will struggle to integrate into any non Islamist community fully.
They will still import wives/husbands from Pakistan/Bangladesh and maybe imams from Saudi Arabia.
Basically Islam has to come first in their life's and will mean that they will struggle to integrate into any non Islamist community fully.
Soldato
Gotta give it to the author of the koran. He knew what needed doing in order to get his way.
Caporegime
I think of Muslims must ask themselves, what is it about Islam that makes these people commit the atrocities in the name of it?
Fundamentally there must be something in the that draws Muslims in something deep in the core of the religion that is being either hijacked or simply used, but it seems very easy to do it.
For me, the people should be asking the religious leaders, those in Saudi Arabia to stand up and deplore Isis . They should be sending strong messages world wide so that everyone can see that anyone who joins Isis will be considered not part of the Muslim family and that they will be outcast and that the deplorable acts must stop.
But we just don't see this happening.
Fundamentally there must be something in the that draws Muslims in something deep in the core of the religion that is being either hijacked or simply used, but it seems very easy to do it.
For me, the people should be asking the religious leaders, those in Saudi Arabia to stand up and deplore Isis . They should be sending strong messages world wide so that everyone can see that anyone who joins Isis will be considered not part of the Muslim family and that they will be outcast and that the deplorable acts must stop.
But we just don't see this happening.
Caporegime
Yes. The one who fulfilled the laws therefore rendering them obsolete. Think of the OT as the silmarillion. It adds depth but isn't needed.