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jigger · 21 Sep 2017 at 19:17

3200Mhz caused a fit with 2 or 4 sticks. Maybe with a set of B Die you could run 3200Mhz or faster.

chanjy · 21 Sep 2017 at 21:38

humbug said:
That's probably because current Ryzen's are built on a Samsung 3Ghz process, its actually a mobile process, its why they don't overclock well, very power efficient (like the 3Ghz 1700 8 core sipping a tiny 60 Watts or so....) its not a good process for clocks.
You can get about 4Ghz or slightly more out of them but after that the volts needed to keep them stable only work under LN2

Ryzen 2 is built on Samsung's 5Ghz process. that's why....

No read about these Samsung processes before mate, got a link? Would be really interested to read about it

Scougar · 22 Sep 2017 at 03:19

So does that mean we might get almost 6 GHz Ryzen 2? Lol. You saw it here first folks.

For AMD a follow up high frequency chip like Ryzen 2 can't come fast enough. Mop up, whilst they can.

Hagar · 22 Sep 2017 at 08:52

nashathedog said:
I didn't do anything other than run it at it's stock XMP and then downclock it.

My Gskill 3200 C14 runs at a slight voltage increase of 1.37V and I boot it at 1.4V. I admit I have not looked at running it stock voltage since the AGESA 1.0.0.6 bios but certainly it was resetting to 2133 before then at the stock voltages from the 'XMP' settings.

Ram will always accept a higher voltage than stock and it is one of the small foibles of this platform that a higher voltage is probably required to get the overclocked ram frequency.

Orcvader · 22 Sep 2017 at 09:32

chanjy said:
No read about these Samsung processes before mate, got a link? Would be really interested to read about it

https://www.globalfoundries.com/sit...oundries-14nm-collaboration-press-release.pdf

Developed by Samsung and licensed to GLOBALFOUNDRIES, the 14nm FinFET process is based on a technology platform that has already gained traction as the leading choice for high-volume, power-efficient system-on-chip (SoC) designs. The platform taps the benefits of three-dimensional, fully depleted FinFET transistors to overcome the limitations of planar transistor technology, enabling up to 20 percent higher speed, 35 percent less power and 15 percent area scaling over industry 20nm planar technology.

chanjy · 22 Sep 2017 at 10:06

Sure but no mention of any 3GHz vs 5GHz process, just wanted to know more about those

eddiew · 22 Sep 2017 at 10:28

dante666 said:
will try the gskill rgb c14 or c16 and hope i can hit 2933 or above

I have 2x16 of the c14 and it runs 3066 on a b350 board with no problems. You may well get full speed on x370

Do not get the c16, it's not (guaranteed to be) Samsung b-die...

Atari · 22 Sep 2017 at 10:36

Does anyone have the 16GB 3200MHz CL14 G.Skill Trident Z? I booted my new system up last night and tried to enable DOCP and it failed to boot - anyone got any settings to get it running at or around the 3200MHz mark?

Board is an X370 Asus Prime

Cheers.

opethdisciple · 22 Sep 2017 at 10:57

Atari said:
Does anyone have the 16GB 3200MHz CL14 G.Skill Trident Z? I booted my new system up last night and tried to enable DOCP and it failed to boot - anyone got any settings to get it running at or around the 3200MHz mark?

Board is an X370 Asus Prime

Cheers.

Are you running the latest BIOS for the board?

I thought the G.Skill stuff was one of the few Ryzen friendly memory modules.

If it doesn't work at 3200Mhz, it's probably be fine at 3066Mhz.

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My corsair LPX does the same Hynix chips however. Doesn't work at 3200Mhz. Even with 1.4v dram and ProcODT 60ohms. However it is stable at 3066Mhz.

jaffveyda · 22 Sep 2017 at 10:57

Version 08172017/09/155.77 MBytes

ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING BIOS 0817
Fix CPU Ratio Lock in issue

Finally.

Atari · 22 Sep 2017 at 11:01

opethdisciple said:
Are you running the latest BIOS for the board?

I thought the G.Skill stuff was one of the few Ryzen friendly memory modules.

If it doesn't work at 3200Mhz, it's probably be fine at 3066Mhz.

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My corsair LPX does the same Hynix chips however. Doesn't work at 3200Mhz. Even with 1.4v dram and ProcODT 60ohms. However it is stable at 3066Mhz.

I don't think I am, I got it booted but didn't get much chance to play around with the PC as my fibre internet decided it wanted to run at 0.35Mbps

I'll run the BIOS update when I get in (I've had to download it and the drivers at work), but would it as simple as enabling DOCP and done?

Hagar · 22 Sep 2017 at 11:07

Atari said:
I don't think I am, I got it booted but didn't get much chance to play around with the PC as my fibre internet decided it wanted to run at 0.35Mbps I'll run the BIOS update when I get in (I've had to download it and the drivers at work), but would it as simple as enabling DOCP and done?

As I have posted before. I have my Gskill (Ripjaws V) 3200 C14 running on DOCP, but I needed to raise the volts to 1.37V and I boot the ram at 1.4V (if you have that option).

1.35V or lower was a bit sporadic. Ensure you set the voltage even with DOCP.

opethdisciple · 22 Sep 2017 at 11:12

Atari said:
I don't think I am, I got it booted but didn't get much chance to play around with the PC as my fibre internet decided it wanted to run at 0.35Mbps I'll run the BIOS update when I get in (I've had to download it and the drivers at work), but would it as simple as enabling DOCP and done?

Technically yes. Although mine after a few months blue screened on me.

Like I said above my 3200Mhz ram will run at 3066Mhz but I also had to up the voltages and set the ProcODT to get it stable.

I suggest you also test stability with a program like HCI.

HCI Memtest. http://hcidesign.com/memtest/

An instance needs to be opened for each individual thread, covering a total of 90-95% of memory giving the OS a little breathing room.

As an example Ryzen 7 1700 - 16GB RAM

16 instances with 850MB per instance

400% with no errors.

chanjy · 22 Sep 2017 at 11:13

My 8 pack Team memory (also B die) is running 3200 at 1.368V (pretty sure this is just set to 1.35V in BIOS though?) so you may need to up volts slightly

Atari · 22 Sep 2017 at 11:14

Perfect, thanks all.

Looking forward to having a play when I get in tonight!

Ste · 23 Sep 2017 at 08:05

Maybe also needs a whisker in the SOC voltage

nashathedog · 23 Sep 2017 at 11:47

nkata said:
My Gskill 3200 C14 runs at a slight voltage increase of 1.37V and I boot it at 1.4V. I admit I have not looked at running it stock voltage since the AGESA 1.0.0.6 bios but certainly it was resetting to 2133 before then at the stock voltages from the 'XMP' settings.

Ram will always accept a higher voltage than stock and it is one of the small foibles of this platform that a higher voltage is probably required to get the overclocked ram frequency.

I didn't touch voltages, I never do, That said I've never had to in the past so maybe it needed a voltage tweak for 3200 but it wouldn't have for the lower speeds I tried it at. I've sent it all back now apart from the case and cpu AIO.

AndreiD · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:53

What kind of voltage scaling do your chips have?
My 1700 seems to have the auto voltage at 1.187v and seems stable at 3.6Ghz with 1.15v (LLC2) and 3.8Ghz with 1.3v (LLC2).

Atari · 23 Sep 2017 at 20:47

3200MHz works fine on the Trident Z I bought, turns out one of the sticks was faulty which caused it to fail when enabled in DOCP.

Now running it at 14-14-14-28.

DarkHorizon472 · 23 Sep 2017 at 21:02

AndreiD said:
What kind of voltage scaling do your chips have?
My 1700 seems to have the auto voltage at 1.187v and seems stable at 3.6Ghz with 1.15v (LLC2) and 3.8Ghz with 1.3v (LLC2).

My 1700 auto voltage maxes out at 1.199v, completely stable. I just left it at that.

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