Rumour 1070 Ti (Videocardz.com)

Telecaster · 17 Oct 2017 at 17:40

Kirby Wurm said:
Not defending Vega but buying what will surely be a powerful but no doubt exorbitantly expensive Volta card isn't what I'd call a solid option either.

The top Volta maybe eye watering expensive, but how much will the SKU be that comfortably beats a V64 in performance/efficiency/price ? it will only possibly need to be a 1160 or maybe a 1170.

LoadsaMoney · 17 Oct 2017 at 17:53

Vega can't even get near the Pascal 1080 Ti, so were probably looking at Pascal 1050 equivalant Volta card to match/whip it.

fs123 · 17 Oct 2017 at 18:51

LoadsaMoney said:
Vega can't even get near the Pascal 1080 Ti, so were probably looking at Pascal 1050 equivalant Volta card to match/whip it.

If that were true then the 1060 should have beaten the top end AMD FuryX but it doesn't. If past releases are an indication, the Volta 1150 will probably only barely catch up to the current 1060.

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2017 at 18:57

fs123 said:
If that were true then the 1060 should have beaten the top end AMD FuryX but it doesn't. If past releases are an indication, the Volta 1150 will probably only barely catch up to the current 1060.

I'd say recent rather than past, as in the past that has happened in that X60 cards end up performing as well as last gens X80 card.

LoadsaMoney · 17 Oct 2017 at 19:12

fs123 said:
If that were true then the 1060 should have beaten the top end AMD FuryX but it doesn't. If past releases are an indication, the Volta 1150 will probably only barely catch up to the current 1060.

Nvidia are that far ahead though, even their lowest Volta card could rip Vega a new'un, and the top end one, well.

Brazo · 17 Oct 2017 at 19:31

Well a 1060 is roughly 980 performance

If that performance differential is continued then an 1160 will match a 1080/Vega 64.

I expect an 1170 to match an overclocked 1080ti and the 1180 to add a bit more again, probably 15-20%.

RatmanGB · 17 Oct 2017 at 21:55

Sorry, I think I've missed something - has there actually been any indication that Volta is going to be a massive leap over Pascal?

The statements that the Volta equivalent of the 1050, or indeed the "lowest" Volta card (1030 replacement?) will match or beat the current Vega cards, even the Vega 56 seem... well, a little hard to believe.

Happy to be corrected!

Kirby Wurm · 17 Oct 2017 at 22:13

Telecaster said:
The top Volta maybe eye watering expensive, but how much will the SKU be that comfortably beats a V64 in performance/efficiency/price ? it will only possibly need to be a 1160 or maybe a 1170.

I'm not comparing to Vega so that's a moot point.

orbitalwalsh · 18 Oct 2017 at 09:14

AthlonXP1800 said:
First pictures of Custom Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Gaming

https://videocardz.com/73408/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-gaming-pictured

Hmmm interesting look like GTX 1070 Ti PCB is smaller than GTX 1070 PCB.

shorter due to VRMs being on the Left hand side b the IO ports like the revised gtx 1060 V2

no reference to go off so easier to build from the ground up, save costs over the standard 1070 ref design and their own 1070 design

DragonQ · 18 Oct 2017 at 09:35

LoadsaMoney said:
Vega can't even get near the Pascal 1080 Ti, so were probably looking at Pascal 1050 equivalant Volta card to match/whip it.

Do people seriously expect a 2050 to beat a 1080? With the current GPU market that is highly delusional.

edscdk · 18 Oct 2017 at 09:48

Brazo said:
Well a 1060 is roughly 980 performance

If that performance differential is continued then an 1160 will match a 1080/Vega 64.

I expect an 1170 to match an overclocked 1080ti and the 1180 to add a bit more again, probably 15-20%.

not necessarily we usually get small steps forward, I expect someone thought we needed a big bump in speed to boost sales... I bet next step is going to be minor gains

Brazo · 18 Oct 2017 at 10:24

edscdk said:
not necessarily we usually get small steps forward, I expect someone thought we needed a big bump in speed to boost sales... I bet next step is going to be minor gains

I suppose it's anyone's guess really!

Whether Nvidia feel they only now need to compete with themselves (but like intel did in incremental steps or whether they want to bury Vega but in its current form I doubt they see it as serious competition.

Jono8 · 18 Oct 2017 at 12:45

1070's are going to have to drop in price right? Otherwise there is no room for this card between the 1070 and 1080 pricing.

If the 1070ti is £450 or more, there is no reason not to buy a 1080 and if the 1070ti is nearer £400, there is no reason to buy the 1070 at its current price. Something has got to give and I think that has to be the 1070 dropping to near £300.

Gregster · 18 Oct 2017 at 12:50

Jono8 said:
1070's are going to have to drop in price right? Otherwise there is no room for this card between the 1070 and 1080 pricing.

If the 1070ti is £450 or more, there is no reason not to buy a 1080 and if the 1070ti is nearer £400, there is no reason to buy the 1070 at its current price. Something has got to give and I think that has to be the 1070 dropping to near £300.

Yer, I would imagine so. NVidia would then pretty much have every angle at top/mid covered.

DragonQ · 18 Oct 2017 at 12:54

Indeed, I expect the 1070 Ti will replace the 1070's price point and the 1070 will either drop or just cease to be sold.

w1ze1 · 18 Oct 2017 at 12:58

I have seen the 1080TI FE marked as EOL on many sites so could be.

TNA · 18 Oct 2017 at 13:37

DragonQ said:
Do people seriously expect a 2050 to beat a 1080? With the current GPU market that is highly delusional.

No, that is just Loadsa doing his thing. 2050 will likely not even beat a 1070, let alone a 1080. Would love to see it, but it is highly unlikely.

I would like to see the 2070 get close to 1080Ti performance however. That would be my next GPU right there. I am starting to think such performance would be enough for me, as most games that I look forward to playing that will need the grunt seem to be getting pushed back to 2019/20. By then I can just get a 3070

imginy · 18 Oct 2017 at 14:06

Jono8 said:
1070's are going to have to drop in price right? Otherwise there is no room for this card between the 1070 and 1080 pricing.

If the 1070ti is £450 or more, there is no reason not to buy a 1080 and if the 1070ti is nearer £400, there is no reason to buy the 1070 at its current price. Something has got to give and I think that has to be the 1070 dropping to near £300.

I'm waiting until 26th to buy my 1070/1070ti see what happens

orbitalwalsh · 18 Oct 2017 at 15:10

imginy said:
I'm waiting until 26th to buy my 1070/1070ti see what happens

think its 2nd nov in stores, paper launch 26th - could be wrong though- wouldnt hurt to be searching at 2pm on the 26th though

imginy · 18 Oct 2017 at 22:47

I just see this http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-1070-ti-fire-strike-extreme-and-time-spy-benchmarks/

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