RX VEGA AIB Cards Information Needed?

Geck0 · 23 Nov 2017 at 09:41

Nexus18 said:
Still is that not rather bad even for reference cards? Don't think AMd or even nvidia have ever stopped production of reference cards as soon as that?

Founders Edition

Nexus18 · 23 Nov 2017 at 09:54

Geck0 said:
Founders Edition

Is that not more or less the same thing just with a more fancy premium name/branding?

EDIT:

Oh wait do you mean nvidia also stopped production of their reference cards very quickly?

Brazo · 23 Nov 2017 at 14:49

ubersonic said:
As above that's just the end of reference Vega supply.

On the plus side it will see the value price of existing Vega reference cards rise as supply can't keep up with the increasing mining demand. Always nice to be able to trade up more favourably at a later date.

That will however worsen the situation for gamers as they’ll get even less performance for the price.

Aricin · 23 Nov 2017 at 14:57

I decided not to wait for Vega AIB once i saw the price of the Powercolor one. No chance. Got myself a reference Vega64 in the ongoing Black Friday sale. Happy days!

Razor Time · 23 Nov 2017 at 15:55

Nexus18 said:
Is that not more or less the same thing just with a more fancy premium name/branding?

EDIT:

Oh wait do you mean nvidia also stopped production of their reference cards very quickly?

You can still buy Founders Edition cards direct from nvidia.

EsaT · 23 Nov 2017 at 18:26

silversurfer said:
I think AMD has more profitable uses for the Vega components then supplying via this route, it'll be upto the AIB to make the sales I guess. I'm thinking this means its more likely AMD will release a 2nd phase to Vega and probably cheaper for them to make.

There just really isn't anything to cut away to decrease price without also cutting away actual hardware.
And 14nm+/12nm node (what ever its now called) should apparently go to risk production (not good idea to start with big chip) only in next quarter.

Well, guess they could cut VRM but that would risk burned VRMs with overclockers...

Geck0 said:
Absolutely, that's why I love AMD reference boards. BEEFY components, cheapish prices and you strip them and slap an AIO on that puppy. Get the heat out of the case.

VRM of undervolted to optimum efficiency/Power Save profile Vega should last ridiculously long time.

Geck0 said:
True, but you have to move a significant amount of air to maintain that, whereas an AIO done right doesn't blow into the case. one to 2 fans if you want to push/pull vs. more at higher RPM to shift the air and all the other components suffering as a consequence.

I wish OEM's would just sell a bare board without shroud or HSF and let me spend the money cooling it. I'd even cop a shorter warranty or some sort of online "connect to my PC and stress test it" validation for a reduction in purchase price.

Making blower HSF with three slots high heatsink would be good way to improve cooling/noise performance without dumping heat to case.
Blower design itself isn't really bad, question is just about scaling of heatsink.
If non-reference coolers were small enough to actually fit into two slots space and not need third slot free also they would struggle under higher heat load.

Spyhop · 23 Nov 2017 at 19:16

EsaT said:
Making blower HSF with three slots high heatsink would be good way to improve cooling/noise performance without dumping heat to case.
Blower design itself isn't really bad, question is just about scaling of heatsink.

Agreed. I would choose "premium blower" every time if the concept caught on. It simply makes sense to expel the air out of the case.

LoadsaMoney · 23 Nov 2017 at 19:43

Unboxing.

JediFragger · 23 Nov 2017 at 20:45

Wonder if they got more than the bare card this time....

LoadsaMoney · 23 Nov 2017 at 20:51

A driver CD :eek:

JediFragger · 23 Nov 2017 at 21:21

Overly generous imo

LiE · 23 Nov 2017 at 22:38

Would you guys say now is a good time to buy a Vega 64 considering they OcUK are selling them reduced?

I'm looking to build a new PC but can wait until after Xmas if it makes sense.

Looking at this one:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ress-graphics-card-stand-alone-gx-19j-gi.html

Armadillo · 23 Nov 2017 at 22:53

Good a time as any. They aren't getting any cheaper and once reference is gone, only aib cards at crazy prices.

LoadsaMoney · 24 Nov 2017 at 13:57

XFX launches Radeon RX Vega 64 and 56 Double Edition

https://videocardz.com/74175/xfx-launches-radeon-rx-vega-64-and-56-double-edition

old gamer · 24 Nov 2017 at 14:34

dont like the xfx its fugly

ubersonic · 24 Nov 2017 at 14:38

Not a fan of that fan/shroud combo, looks like a step backwards tbh.

AthlonXP1800 · 25 Nov 2017 at 01:17

ASUS Radeon RX VEGA 64 ROG Strix OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-41v-as.html

Pre-order price......£649.99!!!

ubersonic · 25 Nov 2017 at 01:42

Well, on the plus side we now definitely know the Sapphire Nitro will be well under £650 hahaha.

JediFragger · 25 Nov 2017 at 02:02

AMD best have a hell of a driver update on the way to justify that pricing!

Hotwired · 25 Nov 2017 at 02:08

JediFragger said:
AMD best have a hell of a driver update on the way to justify that pricing!

It's 3rd party pricing.

However it should be obvious that 3rd party was going to be higher than reference cards and they were not cheap.