Looking for a warm mid-layer that's MUCH warmer than Fleece, recommendations?

Hades · 17 Dec 2017 at 14:28

ShiWarrior said:
yeah i suppose, its highly pack able and rolls up ever so thin into its own hood, but great for keeping the water off!

That sounds perfect for an outer waterproof layer over a down insulating mid layer.

Grandmaster Fap! · 17 Dec 2017 at 16:20

I do a lot of hiking and wild camping and i swear by Mammut and Mountain Equipment stuff, mid weight fleece by either of those under a Gore-Tex jacket should stave off any cold with a good base layer. Even a heavyweight fleece if needed but thats a bit extreme under a jacket unless you work in alaska or have no circulation at all

stuman · 17 Dec 2017 at 17:20

Mountain hardware ghost whisperer copes with everything this country can throw, temperature wise. You’ll need waterproof over the top when it is really raining tho.

I’ve been wearing it over a plain cotton Work shirt through this cold snap have been fine.

So for me, a down jacket would be the choice.

I’ll be getting another when this one wears out.

ShiWarrior · 18 Dec 2017 at 15:45

thanks Hades, Grandmaster and Stuman

my waterproof Jacket is made my mountain Equipment, its called "shivling jacket" if you wish to look it up

wesley · 18 Dec 2017 at 15:53

Fat is a very good heat insulation so eat more

ShiWarrior · 18 Dec 2017 at 15:55

wesley said:
Fat is a very good heat insulation so eat more

i eat a lot, and i cant gain weight, my metabolism is extremely high

Mark A · 18 Dec 2017 at 16:31

I got a webtex bottoms and top base layers for my job which is outdoors in all weathers. They have been fantastic and are not very expensive.

Dave M · 18 Dec 2017 at 16:40

https://www.climbers-shop.com/10900842/products/rab-generator-jacket.aspx

I always have this in my backpack - you'll find something similar still on sale. I've had waterproofs completely give up on me miles from anywhere and I just throw this over the top - it wets through but wet and warm is tolerable.

Street · 18 Dec 2017 at 17:01

Dave M said:
https://www.climbers-shop.com/10900842/products/rab-generator-jacket.aspx

I always have this in my backpack - you'll find something similar still on sale. I've had waterproofs completely give up on me miles from anywhere and I just throw this over the top - it wets through but wet and warm is tolerable.

That's a much better shout than a down jacket for UK use. Primaloft and its alternatives are great and can take so much more abuse while still keeping you warm.

touch · 18 Dec 2017 at 17:11

stuman said:
Mountain hardware ghost whisperer copes with everything this country can throw, temperature wise. You’ll need waterproof over the top when it is really raining tho.

I have a ghost whisperer too and it's great. It's quite thin so it fits nicely under a waterproof shell and packs away easily - and weighs less than a cotton tshirt.
I'd say it's only really suitable for situations where weight is important though. As a jacket to wear around town, I'm sure you'd be able to find something equally as warm for a quarter of the price.

Hotwired · 18 Dec 2017 at 17:26

wesley said:
Fat is a very good heat insulation so eat more

Won't stop you feeling cold, your skin is outside the fat.

Fusion · 19 Dec 2017 at 06:36

Good 3-in-1 jacket is a staple. North Face if you can run to it. Useful in all weathers. Down is probably a bit overkill, though you can get lightweight down jackets/gilets.

iamdjdz · 19 Dec 2017 at 07:42

What about a hat? I wore fleece trousers, t shirt, fleece and a parka with reasonable insulation in -8 temps in iceland recently and when I had my hat on I was more than comfortable.

dirtychinchilla · 19 Dec 2017 at 07:46

mrk said:
Strange, none of the members here I've met in the past have been neckbeards in the slightest.

Agreed. They were, more or less, surprisingly normal.

ShiWarrior · 19 Dec 2017 at 17:24

Street said:
That's a much better shout than a down jacket for UK use. Primaloft and its alternatives are great and can take so much more abuse while still keeping you warm.

Primsloft looks like a good alternative to Down, equivalent to like 500 fill or something , which might suit me better, if i can get one that looks less like your going into space or the north pole

ShiWarrior · 20 Dec 2017 at 16:29

SexyGreyFox said:
What's happened, why can't you cycle?
I associate your name with cycling.

you do ? loved cycling and posting in the cycling thread

Gave it up (hopefully not long term) because i have had too many episodes with my back, now i have chronic back pain and unable to ride, one of my discs is worn and torn a little more than the other one, and thus , on the X-Ray you can see it slightly crushed

Reginald · 20 Dec 2017 at 16:57

always late said:
Murder a human and wear his skin.

This.

Some great suggestions in here. As a perennially frozen person, I'm taking notes. Shi have you tried wearing a hat? Always keeps me so much toastier

On a side note, you mention your metabolism is quite fast and you don't gain wait. Probs nothing but have you had your thyroid checked?

ShiWarrior · 20 Dec 2017 at 17:00

hat, yeah i find that does help
and no i haven't had it checked, thanks for the suggestions

ShiWarrior · 20 Dec 2017 at 18:22

Just seen this on wiggle (cycle shop)

Primaloft, Reversable midlayer

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/salomon-drifter-mid-jacket/

thoughts?

Hades · 20 Dec 2017 at 18:28

Primalof is synthetic and not as warm, for the weight, as down. However it doesn't collapse like down does in the rain. If you have a waterproof outer then down will be better. If this will be the outer layer then it is better than down in the wet.

The ghost whisperer mentioned above is a good shout (but not in the rain unless under a waterproof outer layer).