Soldato
Simple question.... What (if any) is the difference between these two terms?
Anti-Semitism and Racism
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Well apart from that. I don't really understand why a different word a different term is used exclusively for Jewish people.
Not that I have a problem with the term. Just curious..
Not that I have a problem with the term. Just curious..
Man of Honour
I guess if discrimination of a certain group is popular enough it gets its own word?
There's a quite extensive Wikipedia article regarding the origin and evolution of the term and its usage that might satisfy your curiosity.
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It's religion-specific, like Islamophobia. The problem is these terms are used too often for minor things, so I for one don't take them seriously anymore. Boy who cried wolf, basically.
Went there already. Read the first few lines... Talks about it being Racism. Hence my question.
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Oh and Labour.
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Racism is prejudice against someone for their skin color/race?
Anti-semitism is against a religion / jews?
Anti-semitism is against a religion / jews?
Man of Honour
Skin colour would be colourism.
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Presumably this excludes Palestinians - because Palestine never existed.
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surely isn't it the difference between sectarianism and racism
one's against a religion, the other is against an ethnicity
whilst it could be argued that due to strong links between religions and ethnicity on the whole the 2 do overlap somewhat, there's still a difference.
if we take 2 jews- a white american jew and an israeli jew, the anti semite would hate both but the racist would only hate the israeli.
unless it's a racist anti-semite, in which case he hates both of them but he'd really hate the israeli
perhaps the more pertinent question (or at least the one i've always pondered) is what exactly did the jews do historically that garnered all the hate they get? it's not like the current crop of hate against the "west" which is understandable given our collective history of rocking up in other peoples countries and taking them over.
one's against a religion, the other is against an ethnicity
whilst it could be argued that due to strong links between religions and ethnicity on the whole the 2 do overlap somewhat, there's still a difference.
if we take 2 jews- a white american jew and an israeli jew, the anti semite would hate both but the racist would only hate the israeli.
unless it's a racist anti-semite, in which case he hates both of them but he'd really hate the israeli
perhaps the more pertinent question (or at least the one i've always pondered) is what exactly did the jews do historically that garnered all the hate they get? it's not like the current crop of hate against the "west" which is understandable given our collective history of rocking up in other peoples countries and taking them over.
Soldato
Does anti-Semitism mean being anti-Jewish? If so, I think being sectarian (against religions) should suffice. I don't have a great opinion on religion myself either as I've been bulled in the workplace by religious folks who share similar values to the UKIP. Sure there are good religious folks out there too. It's just that I think religion should be a 16+ / 18+ lifestyle choice because it is easily abused. Like drinking and gambling.
The word racism is over-used (along with misogamy).
The word racism is over-used (along with misogamy).
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You only have to read the opening couple of books of the old testament to appreciate the start of the persecutions.
Ultimately, whether you believe in the religions or not, the Jewish people have been persecuted to biblical proportions for thousands of years and inline with their prophecies.
This then creates a considerable problem.
Whilst many governments and individuals clearly don't believe in their religion or the existance of God, it's pretty difficult to refute the evidence of their persecution. Thus the broad adoption and acceptance of the anti-Semitism definition.
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It seems that a number of "Lords", including the charming and consistently patient, tolerant and polite Lord Sugar, have reported anti-Semitic abuse on FB pages backing Jeremy Corbyn to the Met.
One can only assume that the FB posters learned their tolerance and good manners whilst watching The Apprentice.
One can only assume that the FB posters learned their tolerance and good manners whilst watching The Apprentice.
Why was Lord Sugar racist or antisemitic towards anyone on that show? Or are you conflating being rude/outspoken with being outright racist/antisemitic?
It is no wonder there is such a problem in Labour if supports conflate things like that.
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Perhaps you should re-read the post?
Man of Honour
Well they did kill jesus
perhaps you can add some clarification...