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Ryzen "2" ?

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I have a gig x370 board. Bios updates have been all over the place. Boards bricking themselves, cpus getting insanely high stock volts. Issues with audio.
The hardware is great, but the updates have been so hit and miss, and slow.
I actually stayed on F6 since June because I'd been reading so much **** on their forums from people who'd flashed new ones. Just updated to the F23 beta this week. Seems ok so far but some bench scores are lower than older bios.

Read only a handful that have had problems, same as Asus,Msi ect have had respective issues. The cold boot issue has been a duff bios batt from what I've read. Never had it personally though , as for Bios updates they have been fairly good often the first with new AEGIS updates too.

Have a K7 myself, cant knock it tbh. Built 2 others with giga boards(b350), zero issues.

Odd how people can get such vast differences in experiences with the same hardware
 
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I haven’t been keeping up on all things Ryzen2 related. Do we known when we will see the B450 boards? As I’m looking at building my new PC in the next month or so and don’t really need an x470.
 
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Built 2 K7 boards up in the last month with no great issues, not quite sure why people are so down on them tbh.
While I'm on the subject of boards, how many people use gear down ON with 8 pack team group 3200 memory, just curious....
 
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aah never thought about changing the battery. thanks

Funnily enough, I went upstair to my computer after leaving it on all afternoon. It had gone to sleep and done the complete dead thing again. That's after updating to F23d :(
Pulled 24pin and battery for 30 secs and it came back to life.
Very odd.
 
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I've run some tests using Cinebench R15 and controlling the amount of threads manually to check the max frequency reached by the core(s). Results are:

1 Thread - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4174.3Mhz

2 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4124.2Mhz

4 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4074.3Mhz

8 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 3975.0Mhz

16 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 3949.4Mhz

So as I suspected I think having the option enabled in the Taichi bios with the other limit settings left at 0 does not enable XFR 2.0 in practice. Or enables it but with zero room to maneuver in terms of extra frequency. At least in my case.
 
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I've run some tests using Cinebench R15 and controlling the amount of threads manually to check the max frequency reached by the core(s). Results are:

1 Thread - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4174.3Mhz

2 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4124.2Mhz

4 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4074.3Mhz

8 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 3975.0Mhz

16 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 3949.4Mhz

So as I suspected I think having the option enabled in the Taichi bios with the other limit settings left at 0 does not enable XFR 2.0 in practice. Or enables it but with zero room to maneuver in terms of extra frequency. At least in my case.
On the stock cooler? You need decent cooling to get XFR I believe.
 
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Not using the stock cooler no. I'm using a Corsair H105 AIO modded with 2xML120 fans. Temperature is definitely not an issue, it's around 60°C on full load.
 
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Interestingly I've run the same set of tests using the Windows "Balanced" power profile rather than the "Ryzen Balanced" one and I get the following:

1 Thread - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4224.3Mhz

2 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4174.3Mhz

4 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4074.3Mhz

8 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4049.3Mhz

16 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 3949.4Mhz

Does that mean you should no longer be using that power profile with the Ryzen 2xxx series?
 
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Interestingly I've run the same set of tests using the Windows "Balanced" power profile rather than the "Ryzen Balanced" one and I get the following:

1 Thread - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4224.3Mhz

2 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4174.3Mhz

4 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4074.3Mhz

8 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 4049.3Mhz

16 Threads - Max Core Frequency in HWINFO64 = 3949.4Mhz

Does that mean you should no longer be using that power profile with the Ryzen 2xxx series?
More power management is done in hardware rather than by Windows when using the Ryzen balanced profile so I believe the BIOS issues you described are at fault rather than the power profile.
 
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New finding on my end (using bios 4.60), if I leave the Load Line Calibration setting to Auto (I had it set manually to the "lowest" value, Level 5) I can reach higher Turbo frequencies (in this case I was also using the "Ryzen Balanced" power profile)

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Replaced my 1600 3.7 with a 2700x at stock on my CH6. Works right out of the box and hits 3980Mhz on all cores, single core is harder to tell as with Cinebench the single core test seems to jump around all 8 cores. I can see 4250 but HWinfo shows all 8 cores have maxed out at 4340 at some point. Max temp has hit 65 with a Noctua D15 during stress test with max 1000rpm on the fans, the ambient temperature is hot so im really happy with these temps right now.

I'm using 8pack 3600 ram which is set to 3200 C14 as that was all the 1600 could handle. Will just leave it for now but will look to increase that at a later date if i can.
 
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Haven't seen anything in the Taichi bios but since it doesn't have a "recent" bios with the latest AGESA yet I would say I'm not surprised it's not there.
 
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