So, the Championship season has started Spoilers

Trusty · 22 Apr 2018 at 12:38

Yeah, I agree it was a poison chalice, Coleman should get credit for moving to club like Sunderland, and he's also going to stick with them this season, to properly try and sort the club out once and for all. Coleman did extremely well for Wales, his stock was high, things can just start clicking for you, that happened at Wales, and it might happen again at Sunderland, given time to put his mark on the club and whatnot. Who knows what will happen.

Perhaps Sunderland should have gone Pep..

Tummy · 22 Apr 2018 at 12:46

Sunderland should have gotten someone in with either a better club record, or someone who has a good record in the Championship.

Coleman's stock was high because he had overachieved with the Welsh national side, what possessed him to want to manage Sunderland is beyond me (hubris? The arrogance that he actually believed his own hype?) as they were/are a club in absolute freefall.

He waited for a Premiership job, where nobody was stupid enough to offer him a job, and instead thought he would be the man to save a club falling apart.

I have no problem with either Sunderland or Coleman, but one is a club in crisis hurtling towards absolute disaster, and the other a man who's not done anything of note at any club.

Trusty · 22 Apr 2018 at 12:47

Tummy said:
I have no problem with either Sunderland or Coleman, but one is a club in crisis hurtling towards absolute disaster, and the other a man who's not done anything of note at any club.

Sounds like they suit each other then

No1newts · 22 Apr 2018 at 13:15

Tummy said:
I have no idea why Coleman took the Sunderland job, and I have no idea why Sunderland wanted him to have the job.

I said exactly the same to my mates (no idea if I posted it on here at the time) he's a garbage manager who was extremely lucky that he got given a Wales team that Speed had built to perfection.

Fair play to Coleman and Sunderland though, everyone said it would be tough to get out of the championship in the first season down and they beat the odds to achieve that!

Andybtsn · 22 Apr 2018 at 13:35

Tummy said:
Sunderland should have gotten someone in with either a better club record, or someone who has a good record in the Championship.

They did, Grayson and didn't give him enough time so they deserve what they got

Tummy · 22 Apr 2018 at 13:58

Andybtsn said:
They did, Grayson and didn't give him enough time so they deserve what they got

See I am not a fan of Grayson, but I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment. He is a superior Championship manager and was not given the time.

el_dazza · 24 Apr 2018 at 21:39

Get rekt Cardiff.

toshj · 24 Apr 2018 at 23:24

FFS, Cardiff's collapse - after we dug them out of a hole with that last minute equaliser at Fulham a couple of weeks back - has effectively put an end to our play-off hopes. A loss or a draw for Derby and we stood a good chance of hitting the play-offs with two winnable games left.

Andybtsn · 25 Apr 2018 at 11:17

toshj said:
FFS, Cardiff's collapse - after we dug them out of a hole with that last minute equaliser at Fulham a couple of weeks back - has effectively put an end to our play-off hopes. A loss or a draw for Derby and we stood a good chance of hitting the play-offs with two winnable games left.

Wouldn't rule it out yet. I don't think Millwall will win either of their two games and Derby are Derby..

toshj · 25 Apr 2018 at 11:21

Andybtsn said:
Wouldn't rule it out yet. I don't think Millwall will win either of their two games and Derby are Derby..

True but Boro play a terrible Ipswich, and Derby's final game of the season is against Barnsley (who might already be down by this point). If these games go against us, and it's likely that they will, then we'll need to overturn a 7 goal goal difference across two games.

el_dazza · 27 Apr 2018 at 21:57

Dammit Blunderland.

el_dazza · 28 Apr 2018 at 16:55

Down to the last game for promotion and relegation then. We're consigned to the play-offs.

Rikk82 · 29 Apr 2018 at 11:11

Amazing that Fulham could finish on 91 points and still not get an automatic spot.

Tummy · 29 Apr 2018 at 13:21

So... That

Trusty said:
Yeah, I agree it was a poison chalice, Coleman should get credit for moving to club like Sunderland, and he's also going to stick with them this season, to properly try and sort the club out once and for all. Coleman did extremely well for Wales, his stock was high, things can just start clicking for you, that happened at Wales, and it might happen again at Sunderland, given time to put his mark on the club and whatnot. Who knows what will happen.

Worked out well for him really.

BBC Link.

Did he not say he would stay with the club in League One?

el_dazza · 29 Apr 2018 at 17:13

The guy buying Sunderland is currently owner of Eastleigh. They came flying up the non league pyramid and he basically tried to buy his way into league football which failed miserably. He was paying players like James Constable thousands a week to be there and ultimately is backfired. I don't think he'll have the finances to do anything significant at Sunderland.

No1newts · 6 May 2018 at 13:31

Fulham at the last at the moment.

el_dazza · 6 May 2018 at 14:29

Scenes. Burton were safe with 4 mins to go unless something incredible happened and it did. Bolton score 2 in a minute and Burton concede when pressing for the winner they then needed.

Cardiff promoted

nemtizz · 6 May 2018 at 14:34

Fulham, man. Hope they don't 'bottle' the play-offs. That result is pretty demoralising.

el_dazza · 6 May 2018 at 14:43

nemtizz said:
Fulham, man. Hope they don't 'bottle' the play-offs. That result is pretty demoralising.

I do now. Really wanted them to go up automatically. Opportunity was there with Cardiff only drawing as well.

nemtizz · 6 May 2018 at 14:49

el_dazza said:
I do now. Really wanted them to go up automatically. Opportunity was there with Cardiff only drawing as well.

Of course you do.

4 proper clubs looking to get promoted via the play-offs. Would prefer you lot or Fulham, though.

So, the Championship season has started **Spoilers**

So, the Championship season has started Spoilers