Soldato
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Ha.
Truth. How much do you really know anyone? We know people alter their opinions and responses to surveys or psychological studies so they fit the image they have of themselves in their own mind.
More women freezing eggs due to "unreliable men"
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Ha.
Truth. How much do you really know anyone? We know people alter their opinions and responses to surveys or psychological studies so they fit the image they have of themselves in their own mind.
Caporegime
So they should be more like Alphas and not betas?
I feel they'd be happier if they fulfilled a traditional male role in life, generally look to be the leader and protector of the family unit in a respectful and sensible manner, rather than being the submissive one in relationships - women deep down just do not want that I feel.
So they should be more like Alphas and not betas?
Where's Tosno when you need him/her?
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which is why i said they may also have a part time job on top of all of that.
i know someone who has 8 bathrooms (2 downstairs, 5 en suites and 1 main bathroom) in their home. i'd like to see how that home isn't a full time job for someone. they did get cleaners in for a few years but they manage themselves now but obviously gave up working.
also when kids are under 5 they aren't away for 6 hours per day. they need constant supervision.
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I wonder if many of you actually know any women?
Or perhaps the type of women some see and know makes them have a jaundiced opinion of their morals and their life's goals? I see young women every day and for many their current or future partners get my abject sympathy if they have fallen or fall into their dubious clutches. The Victorians often had very sound reasons for the workhouses. In many instances I blame the obsession with social media and a promoted desire for young women to have totally unrealistic and often totally misplaced goals in their lives, and pressured aspirations to fit into the current fatuous norms. The description "airheads" is accurate for so many young women these days, both on the street and in the media.
There's a huge section of English society that are shown lacking in parenting skills, compassion for the elderly, especially elderly relatives, and having a healthy regard for the status of marriage by many of our ethnic population. This forum for example regularly portrays a mocking and condescending attitude to our elderly citizens, their achievements and their hard won experience of life and life's balances.
For sure there are many fine young women around, but such are social media pressures they are often portrayed as old fashioned, or religious nutters for simply being church goers, drab or ugly with no concessions shown to their talents, modest demeanour, virtue or work ethics. Conversely men are becoming emancipated and both young men and women are currently obsessing on minority odd ball sexual proclivities which can still function perfectly adequately out of the media and legal spotlight. The easy access to hard core pornography, and a plethora of young women eager to sell their bodies for a few quid has also made the normal sex lives which people enjoyed for generations to have become critiqued on the basis of cosmetically enhanced, staged performances by those catering to the voyeurs. It must be hard for youngsters entering into their first sexual relationships to have a balanced view of what is normal and what is gratuitous predation.
There are these places called nurseries who parents can pay (and even receive some state support) to supervise children. If you can afford a house with eight bathrooms you should able to afford cleaners or your priorities are very skewed.
I stand by my advise to men. Be careful about marrying someone who earns significantly less than you and/ or who wants to be a stay at home parent..... Because if it all goes wrong you will be paying for that lifestyle choice for some time to come.
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lol yeah, nurseries, lol.. yeah....
Back in the day when only the man worked, his salary could support his family.
Now, a man's salary can't support a family. So the man and the woman both have to work. But the combined income isn't more than the man alone would have previously earnt. So business have managed to get 2 people working for the price of one.
That time sacrifice is terrible for raising kids, eating properly, spending time together, etc. But the kicker is that the family now has to pay childcare costs, so they're also financially worse off too.
Back in the day when only the man worked, his salary could support his family.
Now, a man's salary can't support a family. So the man and the woman both have to work. But the combined income isn't more than the man alone would have previously earnt. So business have managed to get 2 people working for the price of one.
That time sacrifice is terrible for raising kids, eating properly, spending time together, etc. But the kicker is that the family now has to pay childcare costs, so they're also financially worse off too.
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More a critique on people lumping everyone into the "snakes with boobs" category.
Soldato
If only XCOM 2 Vipers were real... Not sure that my human wife and my new snek wife would get along though.
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There's a lot more to nurseries than just supervising children!
And to be fair, nurseries are becoming the preserve of the well off/high earners (who can afford to pay the fees) and the very poor (who only attend the free 15 hours when the child is 3) - the middle earners are being priced out of the market.
A full time place for an under two at Nursery is easily £900-£1000 month on average, then add a second child on to that and I know people paying easily over £1500 a month, just to be able to go to work.
Having seen the level or parental engagement with some stay at home parents I am not particularly convinced that attending nurseries is bad for most children....
The research is somewhat mixed but socialising with other children in an often purpose built environment with professional careers free of distraction from TV's and mobile phones has been shown to have some beneficial affects
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Yes when my two kids where both at nursery we paid £1700 a month for them, and i would add that I feel they where much more social and balanced compared to some of our friends who where stay at home parents.
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Nurseries certainly aren't cheap but people should consider the long term implications of having a stay at home parent.
Even if the cost pretty much wipes out one salary it may be worth putting the kid(s) in nursery once you factor in the long term consequences of one parent staying at home like career progression, pensions etc.
Even if the cost pretty much wipes out one salary it may be worth putting the kid(s) in nursery once you factor in the long term consequences of one parent staying at home like career progression, pensions etc.
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That's exactly what I say when they complain the fee's are too high. You only have to swallow it for 2.5 years until the 30 funded hours come in. Some accept that, some don't.
The ones that confuse me are the ones who take their kids out of one setting to another "cheaper" one, hate it there but won't change back because the £40 a month saving (on a £900 bill) is more important to them than the quality of the provision.
But this is really getting OT!
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There's a lot more to nurseries than just supervising children!
And to be fair, nurseries are becoming the preserve of the well off/high earners (who can afford to pay the fees) and the very poor (who only attend the free 15 hours when the child is 3) - the middle earners are being priced out of the market.
A full time place for an under two at Nursery is easily £900-£1000 month on average, then add a second child on to that and I know people paying easily over £1500 a month, just to be able to go to work.
Truth that
We actually decided to delay having our second child until the first was old enough that the nursery fee's wouldn't be so crippling!Now the youngest is old enough to receive the free 30hrs care... we finally have some disposable income again
Nah, still happens in many ethnic cultures today.
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in this scenario the male earns the bulk of the income. it's cheaper for the woman to stay at home than to pay for cleaners, nurseries and if they were to work 9-5 and work is 45 mins commute. you need to pay someone to take them to and from nursery as well as look after them before and after, etc.
as people say nursery is 1700 a month, cleaners on such a house won't be cheap either. they needed 3 iirc.
you are talking an easy £2500 a month after tax where the mother may only be earning £1500 a month before tax.
now i know what you are going to say. they shouldn't marry someone who earns significantly less than them. well it doesn't work like that. it is what it is.
in your scenario lets say you are earning £30K a year working in IT. you develop some code which is bought by microsoft for millions and you end up getting millions in royalties. that means now you have to dump your gf who earns £25K a year just because you now earn more.