https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-34e-ms.html
price has jumped £110 since yesterday??
price has jumped £110 since yesterday??
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£1050+ now for GTX2080ti?
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Soldato
Do you know how much sales tax in the US is? Typically 5 to 7%. Several states have Zero sales tax.
Soldato
1300 quid for a mid range 2080. Trust me the "real" 2080ti will be coming later.
What is the world coming to.
No, I mean that specific card was £1160 yesterday on overclockers
Soldato
I know. But the usual. Suspects are blindly buying them. Supply and demand.
I genuinely hope they are utter garbage. Teach people to be a bit more sensible.
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No hence why I asked
Still accounts for some of the price difference, then take into account import and customs fees etc (if they're applicable).
Soldato
If you buy a 2080ti in alaska or any other state with zero sales tax (oregon) etc. $999. We are being raped here. Same every gen though.No hence why I asked
Still accounts for some of the price difference, then take into account import and customs fees etc.
Honestly these prices are stupid. And it's not that "I can't afford it" I could. But not paying that much. It just encourages nvidia that these prices are fine. Even if I won the lottery I wouldn't buy at these prices.
The issue here is really simple:
- development cycles take years, meaning that for the 2*** series cards, that it probably started 3-4 years ago. At that point, they'll have had all sorts of forecasts, including sales, pricing, competition etc
- Nvidia have suddenly found themselves with NO competition able to deliver similar capabilities. The implications being that 1080 capability cards can be priced against the AMD competition, and everything faster than that can have whatever dreamed up price Nvidia think the market will stand
- SOMEONE (early adopters) will happily cough up, that's just the way that things work
- Pointless talking about the "cost to make". After all, they're made of plastic and sand. The cost of the materials making a card is probably pence. Everything else is the cost to develop and build the manufacturing capability
The only solution that we have consumers have are:
- Wait until genuine competition from AMD arrives (likely to be some time)
- Hope that that the manufacturing plant(s) being run by Nvidia are churning out so many that they end up with a "glut" in their supply chain of unsold units, so end up dropping the price
In the meantime, how about keeping down the insults guys. It's demeaning and frankly unnecessary.
- development cycles take years, meaning that for the 2*** series cards, that it probably started 3-4 years ago. At that point, they'll have had all sorts of forecasts, including sales, pricing, competition etc
- Nvidia have suddenly found themselves with NO competition able to deliver similar capabilities. The implications being that 1080 capability cards can be priced against the AMD competition, and everything faster than that can have whatever dreamed up price Nvidia think the market will stand
- SOMEONE (early adopters) will happily cough up, that's just the way that things work
- Pointless talking about the "cost to make". After all, they're made of plastic and sand. The cost of the materials making a card is probably pence. Everything else is the cost to develop and build the manufacturing capability
The only solution that we have consumers have are:
- Wait until genuine competition from AMD arrives (likely to be some time)
- Hope that that the manufacturing plant(s) being run by Nvidia are churning out so many that they end up with a "glut" in their supply chain of unsold units, so end up dropping the price
In the meantime, how about keeping down the insults guys. It's demeaning and frankly unnecessary.
Caporegime
I get the feeling the bolded is never going to happen again, at least not at the top end, historically AMD have never been able to sell enough cards even when competitive, i think AMD are sick of trying and losing money anyway.
We will not see AMD competing at the ##80 / ##80TI level ever again unfortunately, they do make money in the mid range, currently RX 580 level, but that's it.
People only want AMD to compete so they can buy cheaper nVidia and that can no longer be sustained.
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I agree regarding prices, was just trying to understand the price difference between here and the US for example.
Soldato
Well there is a reason that the sales directors of certain companies here drive a lot fancier cars than those in the states... Just saying.
£1,269 now. Peak Nvidia. The CEO's black leather jackets will never be as shiny as in 2018, I am calling it now. I won't touch one until I can get a custom one for £800 or less and its gonna have to drill my 1080ti at VR.
Like many have said, the pricing is absolutely disgusting, Nvidia has no competition and no matter what the price is, there are always people who will buy it. It's just such a shame Nvidia are driving people to give up PC gaming and turn to consoles.
For a top end Asus 2080Ti (£1500), in theory you could actually buy a decent complete system for this.
For a top end Asus 2080Ti (£1500), in theory you could actually buy a decent complete system for this.
Soldato
Why do people have to turn away from PC gaming just because this card is expensive, buy a 1080Ti, it'll play everything for years to come and second hand they are £400+, people make it sound like the 2080ti is going to be the one and only card, pathetic.
People get so upset when they can't afford new and shiny, there's plenty other options.
People get so upset when they can't afford new and shiny, there's plenty other options.
Caporegime
Spot on. There are alternatives that allow us to play and have just as much fun for far less money. Silly statements IMO.
It's probably not as many as it seems. When Nvidia do something people feel the need to pour out their angst at it and generally it's the same people repeating the same things in all the threads, more than once, so it feels like more. If you look at the speculation thread last night there were half a dozen or so people just repeating the same thing over and over about the price and lube jokes. I guess they wanted their opinion on every page.
Caporegime
1070 / 1080 are still very good cards... actually the RX 580 is a very capable 1080P card and a steal at £225.
Absolutely no excuse to go full peasant, an RX 580 is better than any Console, the GTX 1070 is a great 1440P card.
Absolutely no excuse to go full peasant, an RX 580 is better than any Console, the GTX 1070 is a great 1440P card.
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