OcUK Nvidia RTX series review thread

[kevman]

Fair one if it is him. I did try to calm him down but he wasn't.

Think your right - seemed to be using term "naysayer" quite a bit which rings some bells

 

[flea.rider]

so what most seem to be saying price to performance is really crap ..
a 1080ti is on par with a 2080 but cheaper ..and the 2080ti is way over priced for the performance increase ...
come on amd get something out there ...lol'z

 

[SirPsychoZe0]

Say the 1080 Ti is £650 and 2080 Ti is on average £1,100. The performance increase is 30% on average, and the extra cost is £450.

Firstly, how much would you pay for extra 30% performance? It wouldn't quite be 30% extra cost i.e. 1 for 1, because you expect improvement over time, but technology is improving more slowly here, so let's say 20% more is fair. Thats £120 extra cost for that performance, but let's round up to £150.

That leaves £300 of the extra cost which we must attribute to RT and DLSS capability, which has the potential for future deployment at varying degrees of success. So the question is, do you value to the tune of £300 the potential to benefit from these features in the future?

Let's isolate this and look at it another way. If it's £300 for RT and DLSS that you pay, would you spend that money on a standalone dedicated RT/DLSS card (a modern PhyX card if you will) to sit alongside your current 1080 Ti? Does that make sense for what it will bring to your gaming experience?

 

[flea.rider]

by the time games use this rt and dlss your card will be old .. major uptake if it happens will be gen 2-3 after the playstation / xbox take it on ..
so atm and prob for the next 3-4 yrs it's worthless

 

[McGraw]

I expected in the worst case scenario the 2080 to perform 5% better than a AIB 1080 Ti. Somehow it has managed to be worse with the 2080 (Being overclocked by default) on par or worse than a 1080 Ti FE (Non overclocked).

The 2080 should be easily outperforming the 1080ti at these prices

 

[Circuit Surfer]

by the time games use this rt and dlss your card will be old .. major uptake if it happens will be gen 2-3 after the playstation / xbox take it on ..
so atm and prob for the next 3-4 yrs it's worthless

2 months is old? About 20 major title's will have it when the Windows update drops.

 

[kazuya1337]

2 months is old? About 20 major title's will have it when the Windows update drops.

Could you list those new major titles since I can barely reach 5-6 before march 2019 and then it won't be much higher than 10 and that's assuming they will adopt it.

 

[CraigN]

No SLI/NVlink reviews? Interested to see how the new nvlink scales.

 

[willhub]

might get a 2080ti when its 500 quid

 

[jjgreenwood]

Say the 1080 Ti is £650 and 2080 Ti is on average £1,100. The performance increase is 30% on average, and the extra cost is £450.

Firstly, how much would you pay for extra 30% performance? It wouldn't quite be 30% extra cost i.e. 1 for 1, because you expect improvement over time, but technology is improving more slowly here, so let's say 20% more is fair. Thats £120 extra cost for that performance, but let's round up to £150.

That leaves £300 of the extra cost which we must attribute to RT and DLSS capability, which has the potential for future deployment at varying degrees of success. So the question is, do you value to the tune of £300 the potential to benefit from these features in the future?

Let's isolate this and look at it another way. If it's £300 for RT and DLSS that you pay, would you spend that money on a standalone dedicated RT/DLSS card (a modern PhyX card if you will) to sit alongside your current 1080 Ti? Does that make sense for what it will bring to your gaming experience?

It was even worse when 1080ti came out and everyone seemed to want £800-£900 for it. A lot of money for a card 25% faster than a decent 1080 that I paid £620 for at launch and had been running for nearly a year. At least this time round there is some hope this RTX stuff might raise the game, and you can get a ti at launch if you fancy.

Personally I hope Nvidia does a good job convincing everyone to put this RTX stuff into new software and the next launch on the smaller node shows a big improvement in RTX performance, it'll be nice to swop 2080 for 2180 and see a big improvement in RTX titles.

 

[maxryan]

2080 performances is around the same and in some games worst then 1080 ti but it is £100 more expensive. Definitely no reason to get 2080 over 1080ti.

2080ti is around 15 to 30% faster then 1080ti but its 80% more expensive ! Nvidia is 100% taking the p***, if people still buy the card at that stupid price then that will just reward Nvidia. They will just keep pushing the price up and 3080ti will end up being £2000. Dony buy 20xx series card!!

 

[Circuit Surfer]

2080 performances is around the same and in some games worst then 1080 ti but it is £100 more expensive. Definitely no reason to get 2080 over 1080ti.

There's plenty of reasons to buy the 2080 over 1080ti. New architecture, better efficiency, DLSS, 5-10% more performance in standard rasterization, raytracing, 50% more performance in professional workloads, etc.

P.S i bet you can't name 3 games the 1080ti beats the 2080 for fps in 1440p or 4k.

2080ti is around 15 to 30% faster then 1080ti but its 80% more expensive !

This is false. You may not like the price increases but it doesn't give you the right to spread misinfo. Refer to this chart in future:

 

[Caracus2k]

Linus tech tips had developer of game with RTX tech in it lined up to provide a beta preview which then mysteriously gets cancelled?

Methinks Linus is right when he says Nvidia are selling cards, by their very name, with a feature that isn't ready and I personally suspect one that won't ever provide a particularly acceptable experience in the `2000` series hardware.

 

[kazuya1337]

Did you rip that graphic off the Nvidia site because those increases are not even close to what reviewers saw and not in a good way

 

[Legend]

Linus tech tips had developer of game with RTX tech in it lined up to provide a beta preview which then mysteriously gets cancelled?

Methinks Linus is right when he says Nvidia are selling cards, by their very name, with a feature that isn't ready and I personally suspect one that won't ever provide a particularly acceptable experience in the `2000` series hardware.

DLSS has some potential for sure, if devs get behind it, but it will be months before we see it becoming anywhere approaching mainstream, and no doubt there will be teething problems. Ray tracing is far more suspect. Unless DLSS works in conjunciton with that and can improve upon the 1080p framerates that have been shown, because scraping by with barely 60FPS @ 1080p just isn't going to cut it. Buying a 2080Ti at 1080p is absolutely pointless given how CPU restricted it becomes... the benchmarks clearly demonstrate this. So therefore it would ONLY be worth it for ray tracing. A £1200+ GPU to play just a handful of games at barely acceptable frame rates on a 1080p monitor, and which is a complete waste of money with everything else? YEAHHHH, OK!

So many unknowns here... bottom line, buying one of these GPUs today is a pretty big risk. You're really banking on things working out in the short term. If they don't, you've spent a whole heap of money for features you simply aren't going to be able to utilise. I hope this works out, I really do... no one wins otherwise, even Nvidia.

 

[Circuit Surfer]

Did you rip that graphic off the Nvidia site because those increases are not even close to what reviewers saw and not in a good way

No it is from HardwareCanucks video review benchmarks. They are accurate figures. Other reviews also confirm similar findings so no need to call Mulder & Scully

 

[Panos]

No it is from HardwareCanucks video review benchmarks. They are accurate figures. Other reviews also confirm similar findings so no need to call Mulder & Scully

Yeah right HardwareCanucks, use a website that is criticized as Nvidia shill....
Have a look at indy reviews.
https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/te...0-ti-and-rtx-2080-founders-edition-reviews/1/

 

[AthlonXP1800]

Found custom RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti reviews:

MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio review

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_RTX_2080_Gaming_X_Trio/

ASUS RTX 2080 ROG STRIX GAMING OC review

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_RTX_2080_Strix_OC/

Palit RTX 2080 Gaming Pro OC review

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_RTX_2080_Gaming_Pro_OC/

ASUS RTX 2080 Ti ROG STRIX GAMING OC reviews

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Strix_OC/
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-rog-strix-preview,1.html

MSI RTX 2080 Ti Duke reviews

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Duke/
https://www.cowcotland.com/articles/2558/test-carte-graphique-msi-rtx-2080-ti-duke.html

MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio reviews

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Gaming_X_Trio/
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-gaming-x-trio-review,1.html

Very good custom RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti reviews, very disappointed with Founders Edition did not have fanstop function at idle.

Surprised at ASUS ROG STRIX OC temperature compared to MSI Gaming X, very difficult decision to chose ASUS or MSI so MSI seem the best with highest OC and higher temp would be nice for some extra space heat for my room plus I will need to get a new case for massive card. Will wait for more ASUS, MSI and EVGA reviews. Wait for Inno3D and Gigabyte reviews too.

No rush to get one, will get RTX 2080 next month when Windows 10 1809 go live which it will have DirectX Ray Tracing included and hopefully some games patch with RTX and DLSS enabled.

 

[razorpakk]

Curious to see Asus Dual OC card reviewed, can still be found for 715£ - which would almost turn me off from the crazy 1080Ti bidding I've been doing since yesterday on ebay.

 

[fastboy]

I had the dual OC 1070,was a great card when shunt modded and under water and one of the highest 1070 scores on timespy, buildzoid gave the pcb a big thumbs up.