Croydon cat killer mystery solved - according to the Police

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Did some of the cats have their address on their collars? Otherwise how did this 'fox' know where the cat's owners lived in order to deposit the cat's remains onto the doorstep?
 
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Did some of the cats have their address on their collars? Otherwise how did this 'fox' know where the cat's owners lived in order to deposit the cat's remains onto the doorstep?
Thats a great point. The cats were found on doorsteps and in their own gardens. Unless the cars came through the garden to run the cats over, how on earth did the cats bodies get back home?
 
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In June last year, a cat’s head was found in a school playground in Catford. CCTV showed a fox carrying it into the playground.

The following month a witness found the body of a cat with no head or tail next to her property. Suspecting that the cat had been placed there, she checked CCTV and saw a fox drop the cat in the position in which it was found.

"Good job lads, debrief in the pub later"
 
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In June last year, a cat’s head was found in a school playground in Catford. CCTV showed a fox carrying it into the playground.

The following month a witness found the body of a cat with no head or tail next to her property. Suspecting that the cat had been placed there, she checked CCTV and saw a fox drop the cat in the position in which it was found.

"Good job lads, debrief in the pub later"
Yes but it’s not on the owners property, which is where a lot of the cats have been found.
 
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So why hasn't the rest of the UK's cities like Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, Birmingham, Leeds etc not had incidents like this in the sheer amount thats been reported round the south east London area? Surely there would be a pattern emerging over the country rather than one spot in particular? Every city in the country has lots of cats, cars and foxes.

Very true, I’ve no idea who or what was responsible for this onslaught on cats, Reynard the Ripper or Sweeney Todd, but it’s things like this blithe off hand police report that make me wonder if perhaps my dad was right.
He’d often come out with one liners, usually after half a bottle of Armagnac, that would crack me and my mum up, one of which was, “I wouldn’t believe a copper if he said that it got dark at night.”
We used to mutter, “Silly old sod”, but maybe he was on to something.
 
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So why hasn't the rest of the UK's cities like Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, Birmingham, Leeds etc not had incidents like this in the sheer amount thats been reported round the south east London area? Surely there would be a pattern emerging over the country rather than one spot in particular? Every city in the country has lots of cats, cars and foxes.

I could be a learnt behaviour for a particular populations of foxes. They may be learning that cats = easy-ish food.

Or that they consider cats to be competition for food as cats will catch a lot of their pray and are defending their territory, most cats probably escape, and it just the weaker/slower/old ones that are getting nabbed.

Considering that the fox population is 250,000 - 750,000 depending on the time of year, about 1 in 7 live in urban areas. Cats are numbering 11 million. So an urban fox will probably encounter a lot of cats.

The number of cats being involved is a few 100, is a tiny number considering the population.

And when something becomes a news story people will link their incident to it. These deaths could have been happening for decades, but no social media/internet/news to link them all. :)
 
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I could be a learnt behaviour for a particular populations of foxes. They may be learning that cats = easy-ish food.

Or that they consider cats to be competition for food as cats will catch a lot of their pray and are defending their territory, most cats probably escape, and it just the weaker/slower/old ones that are getting nabbed.

Considering that the fox population is 250,000 - 750,000 depending on the time of year, about 1 in 7 live in urban areas. Cats are numbering 11 million. So an urban fox will probably encounter a lot of cats.

The number of cats being involved is a few 100, is a tiny number considering the population.

And when something becomes a news story people will link their incident to it. These deaths could have been happening for decades, but no social media/internet/news to link them all. :)
If I was a fox I'd kill cats for fun, I mean it's in their nature just like cats and I couldn't bring myself to kill anything else. It makes perfect sense for foxes to kill them.
 
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Good for the police, regardless of the truth investigating this is a complete waste of time, money and resources at a time when crime is spiralling out of control and they're blaming those very things as the reason.

If you can't handle your pet dying in strange circumstances then buy one that doesn't wander off on its own urinating in other peoples' gardens and is less likely to run in front of cars etc.

LOL

I don't mind cats, I do think people should get them neutered, keep them indoors for a long time while kittens and fit bells to their collars - that should hopefully mean they don't wander too far from their own garden and are much less of a threat to local wildlife.

Impact on birds in the UK is disputed somewhat with some claims that they only tend to take sickly birds but with other claims that they are having an effect on songbirds, and behaviour when birds nest etc... either way it would be a responsible move by owners to fit a bell collar.
 
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I would rather that their "parents" had got neutered earlier.
Cats and mobile faeces distributors (AKA dogs) are a mark of just how stupid modern urban man and woman has become.
So you hate cats and dogs as well. Is there anything you actually like other than socialism or high horses, or are you just the worlds most miserable bitter man?
 
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When people let their cats roam it doesn't come risk free and the fox has every right to hunt them. Foxes are also territorial and would see cats as a direct threat.
 
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