Do you genuinely believe the nonsense you come out with, or is it just for effect?
Stolen iPhone X
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Do you genuinely believe the nonsense you come out with, or is it just for effect?
Soldato
You can read minds? OMG? You had no idea what they wanted.
OR they have to respond to such incidents due to ********** out there getting bent out of shape about such things when in reality they were probably more interested in investigating real crime and not a he said/she said argument with no proof.
Associate
When you see the police wasting time investigating dead people, spending millions on phone hacking, hanging around waiting to arrest Julian Assange, policing Twitter and recording hurt feelings as crimes, the public wonders why their stolen property is such a low priority.
Man of Honour
Let me stop you there. You don't see any of this. You read about it in the press or on social media. This is not and has never been a true reflection of what the Police do.
Besides which, investigating 'dead people' is an important task as it could lead to saving lives, or uncovering a bigger threat, like the Russian use of chemical weapons. Other times it could be under instruction from the County Coroner, which is a very important process to establish How, Where and Why; once again, very important as it could lead onto bigger concerns.
Phone 'hacking' (which it is absolutely not hacking) was a scandal, and the focus of which was directed by the Government, not the Police.
As for the others, that's just media hype.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nd-twitter-posts-soar-in-london-a7064246.html
Too busy nicking people for saying mean things on the internet.
Too busy nicking people for saying mean things on the internet.
London's Met and even, to a lesser degree, CoLP are not a good and accurate reflection of what Policing is like in the rest of the country. Their focus and priorities are often very different to those of various other forces, likewise the staff, funding, specialisms and training can differ too (as well as the entry requirements
).
Associate
To clarify: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...offer-explain-abuse-inquiry-operation-midland
Dead people for crimes which cannot be prosecuted on flimsy evidence.
Man of Honour
In 2017 there were 5,516,928 offences recorded in England and Wales. Of that total, there were 243,086 classified under Stalking and Harassment which includes harassment, racially or religiously motivated harassment, stalking, malicious communications. The last one being what you are referring to. That is 4.41% of recorded crime of which malicious communications is a small fraction.
You're post highlights that the public don't understand the reality.
Soldato
I'm not a fan of the police to be honest, I wish I was. I have nothing against them per say personally (I've dealt with some very nice police officers) but when it comes to it and you're in any way a victim of crime, it's useless. They say crime doesn't pay, but it does. The police very rarely investigate a crime unless it's at a certain level, and will more often than not just try and get a conviction rather than finding the truth.
If you're not stupid, and don't leave obvious evidence and you're not seen, you're golden as a criminal. If you look at the % of crimes that are solved by actual police work and not the public giving info/ witnesses, criminals being retarded, so much falls on the latter. (fwiw I used to work for a constabulary so it's not just what I've read online
)
If you're not stupid, and don't leave obvious evidence and you're not seen, you're golden as a criminal. If you look at the % of crimes that are solved by actual police work and not the public giving info/ witnesses, criminals being retarded, so much falls on the latter. (fwiw I used to work for a constabulary so it's not just what I've read online
)How many hours of police time practically wasted?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cidents-trivial-considered-actual-crimes.html
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/new...ion-shelter-probe-offensive-comments-14143548
Not even allowed to say mean things about sex gangs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cidents-trivial-considered-actual-crimes.html
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/new...ion-shelter-probe-offensive-comments-14143548
Not even allowed to say mean things about sex gangs.
Soldato
If there was ONE thing I could wish for, it would be that people apply a "reasonable mans test" to everything they read in a newspaper/online/social media or whatever. It really irks me when people read something, twist it slightly, then represent it as the truth. Subtle differences matter to how something is read or understood, which is why the phrase "fake news" has come about.
Do you *REALLY* think the police went after several people for saying "Ahhh these sex gangs are awful, I sincerely wish they go to prison for a long time". Hell, do you think that the police would go after several people if they said "**** these ****ing sex gangs - if i ever see any of them i'm going to **** them right up, the little ****s"?
No.
The article clearly states that the 6 people identified made several posts making offensive comments about their race and religion. Since they haven't been quoted in the article, I can only imagine as to what they would have been, but I severely doubt they were along the lines of "Oh, they're all muslims again" or something.
Therefore, they weren't saying "mean things about sex gangs" as you say, they were actually saying "mean things" about over half of the worlds population.
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I'm not sure if you're expressing agreement or disagreement, I'm assuming the latter.
Whether you disagree or agree, the facts remain; this phone was not stolen because some smack head wanted a fancy Phone and wanted to faff around with apps and crapps. It was stolen because he is a junkie and wanted to sell it in order to fund an expensive drug habit. Just look at the photo of the crack den does it look like he holds on to nice things? certainly not!
The second fact is, all drugs are intrinsically completely worthless evidenced by the following; it costs absolutely nothing to produce, farmers get paid virtually nothing for producing tonnes upon tonnes of pure Colombian. Now ask yourself where is this added value coming from when a gram of cocaine costs 20p/g at origin, and then magically inflates to over £50/g at point of sale, that's a 25,000% increase. Not only is it already massively inflated, by the time its in the hands of the user, it's also almost completely impure. A criminal will sell pretty much 1 penny worth of cocaine for £50, that's almost 500,000% increase
and people wonder why children in London are murdering each-other to get a piece of that pie, and at the same time they call me, a person versed in criminology and sociology, retarded at the same time. Hahahahah 
Why is it inflated by half a million percent? What has happened between origin and point of sale? Because a 500,000% increase is truly astronomical!
The answer is, a few people have broken the law. The fact is when something is this illegal and enforced it limits the job specification of the supply chain to "criminals". They're taking a risk, they are in complete control, and naturally they want to maximise their profits.
Based on these undeniable facts, the solution to the problem of these junkies and ALL drug associated crime such as gang related murders, is to end the artificial inflation of drugs.
If drugs were available for what they were worth, it would completely end at least 98% of all drug related crime which ever happens. Children wouldn't be killing each other so they can sell drugs, people wouldn't be nicking iPhones to buy drugs, the hopeless junkies would be put out of their misery overnight instead of endlessly going round nicking things trying their best to OD, junkies who take as much as they need will continue taking as much as they want. Criminal drug distribution networks will be shut down overnight, the entire drugs economy completely shattered overnight. New and potential drug addicts won't have dealers preying on them hoping for them to get addicted. I mean the benefits are absolutely endless.
I'm not sure if you're expressing agreement or disagreement, I'm assuming the latter.
Whether you disagree or agree, the facts remain; this phone was not stolen because some smack head wanted a fancy Phone and wanted to faff around with apps and crapps. It was stolen because he is a junkie and wanted to sell it in order to fund an expensive drug habit. Just look at the photo of the crack den does it look like he holds on to nice things? certainly not!
The second fact is, all drugs are intrinsically completely worthless evidenced by the following; it costs absolutely nothing to produce, farmers get paid virtually nothing for producing tonnes upon tonnes of pure Colombian. Now ask yourself where is this added value coming from when a gram of cocaine costs 20p/g at origin, and then magically inflates to over £50/g at point of sale, that's a 25,000% increase. Not only is it already massively inflated, by the time its in the hands of the user, it's also almost completely impure. A criminal will sell pretty much 1 penny worth of cocaine for £50, that's almost 500,000% increase
and people wonder why children in London are murdering each-other to get a piece of that pie, and at the same time they call me, a person versed in criminology and sociology, retarded at the same time. Hahahahah Why is it inflated by half a million percent? What has happened between origin and point of sale? Because a 500,000% increase is truly astronomical!
The answer is, a few people have broken the law. The fact is when something is this illegal and enforced it limits the job specification of the supply chain to "criminals". They're taking a risk, they are in complete control, and naturally they want to maximise their profits.
Based on these undeniable facts, the solution to the problem of these junkies and ALL drug associated crime such as gang related murders, is to end the artificial inflation of drugs.
If drugs were available for what they were worth, it would completely end at least 98% of all drug related crime which ever happens. Children wouldn't be killing each other so they can sell drugs, people wouldn't be nicking iPhones to buy drugs, the hopeless junkies would be put out of their misery overnight instead of endlessly going round nicking things trying their best to OD, junkies who take as much as they need will continue taking as much as they want. Criminal drug distribution networks will be shut down overnight, the entire drugs economy completely shattered overnight. New and potential drug addicts won't have dealers preying on them hoping for them to get addicted. I mean the benefits are absolutely endless.
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I know (or spoke to) at least two specials who had a worse opinion of the police after being specials - and seeing things from the inside - than before they joined.
Both highlighted an "us vs them" mentality, and more desire to exercise personal power than be servants of society.
Soldato
My confidence in the police has taken a huge hit recently. My van was crashed into and the driver of the other car was caught on dashcam of a passing colleague and clearly on CCTV trying to wipe the paint transfer off. I reported it hoping to get the other persons insurance details, but the officer dealing with it hasn't even been to collect th evidence. Its been 5 weeks and I've had everything from excuses to attempts to dissuade me from pursuing it, saying it will take months and months and am I prepared to go to court and pay for court costs etc. She stopped talking when I quoted SWP road traffic reporting policy at her.
Long and short of it, you can commit a hit and run, cause over £1000 worth of damage and the police don't want to know. They actively avoid work.
I thought it was only police farces like GMP, MET and Avon and Somerset that would turn a blind eye to drug dealing and murder in order to pursue parking violations and social media transgressions.
I hope there is some justice for your friend, but without vigilante style justice, its highly unlikely.
Long and short of it, you can commit a hit and run, cause over £1000 worth of damage and the police don't want to know. They actively avoid work.
I thought it was only police farces like GMP, MET and Avon and Somerset that would turn a blind eye to drug dealing and murder in order to pursue parking violations and social media transgressions.
I hope there is some justice for your friend, but without vigilante style justice, its highly unlikely.
Can you not get the footage yourself and send it to your own insurer to follow it up?
Caporegime
That's would be the logical approach
Soldato
This is what I've had to do. The police actively refused to investigate.
Soldato
Read whos mind?