Saudi Arabia again - Saudi girl facing possible death in Bangkok Airport

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It seems the Saudis aren't content with just cutting up a Washington Post Journalist in their Turkish Consulate building, now they've after an 18 year old Saudi girl who is seemingly barricading herself in a hotel room in Bangkok as the Saudis want to return her to her family.... who seemingly want to kill her in an "honour killing"

Saw it breaking last night on Maajid Nawaz's Facebook page - The Daily Fail surprisingly seemed to be one of the first outlets to report on this story though it is now getting global attention:

#SaveRahaf is the hashtag on twitter/facebook

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-trying-flee-family-amid-fears-kill-her.html

edit - guardian link for those who don't like the Daily Fail:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...held-bangkok-fears-will-be-killed-repatriated

the tl;dr seems to be:

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18 year old Saudi woman with an abusive family escapes her family on board a Kuwaiti Airline's flight to Bangkok

she apparently has an Australian visa and intends to claim asylum there

grounds for asylum - she's given up Isalm/is an apostate and is rather frightened of her father

upon arrival in Bangkok her passport has been confiscated by the Saudis

she has video footage confirming this on twitter, video also confirms she has money

she was due to be put on a Kuwaiti Airlines flight back to Kuwait this morning, seemingly she's avoided this and has barricaded herself in a hotel room

Thai authorities seem to be unhelpful at best at the moment - she's trying to get contact with the UNHCR

Saudi Embassy in Bangkok is doing the usual bare faced lies - pretending that it is all a standard immigration admin issue and that she doesn't have a Thai visa, has no return ticket etc..etc.. which ignores that she doesn't need one to transit to Australia

Her cousin has already made it clear that they intend to kill her when they get her back to the gulf.

Various Saudis on twitter are calling for her death

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It isn't clear she can, I guess perhaps the chances have increased a bit now that she managed to avoid getting taken away on the flight this morning. But the Thai officials have clearly been complicit in this so far with the Saudi official from the Embassy being able to meet her as she got off the plane and confiscate her passport etc.. then Thailand playing along with the Saudi narrative etc..etc..
 
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I heard about this yesterday and feel terribly sorry for her. I don't know what the answer is. Only the Thai's can directly help her and if they are complicit with the Saudi's then that's unlikely. The only help she can hope for is the publicity causing some embarrassment for the Thai's, and countries working indirectly behind the scenes to put pressure on them. But I can't see another nation whisking her away without Thai agreement because it would cause an international incident. Best of luck to her.

EDIT: Fixed a typo.
 
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You see you dont even need to be caught up by the fanatics of the religion, you just have to think for yourself and be born in the wrong part of the world, I wonder if a week could possibly go past without hearing about Islam infringing on the rights of another person.
 
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It isn't clear she can, I guess perhaps the chances have increased a bit now that she managed to avoid getting taken away on the flight this morning. But the Thai officials have clearly been complicit in this so far with the Saudi official from the Embassy being able to meet her as she got off the plane and confiscate her passport etc.. then Thailand playing along with the Saudi narrative etc..etc..

Thailand will likely play along with Saudi Arabia, but there's hope if we can get enough publicity on this that they wont. I'm reminded of the case of that Saudi girl who managed to escape with the help of a Western specialist and was then betrayed by the Indian government which allowed Saudi forces to storm her boat in their waters and drag her back to Saudi. She's been seen once since, in still photographs, where she looks drugged. Which is believable because they drugged her before.

It's telling that this woman only managed to escape when she was in Kuwait "which, unlike Saudi Arabia, doesn’t require a male relative’s approval for a woman to leave the country." Every woman in Saudi Arabia is a prisoner. They require male consent by husband or father to attend higher education, have a job, travel or marry. It's horrific.
 
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Happens rather quickly with stories that don’t show the Saudis in a good light. Possibly something to Twitter being partly Saudi owned these days?

"Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, who in 2011 in the social network, now owns 34.9 million shares of Twitter’s common stock,"

That "only" translates to something like 5% of the (insanely over-valued) Twitter, but it's still one of the largest stake-holders, larger than one of Twitter's own founders and only 1% behind the other founder. That's a lot of influence. Saudi money is everywhere in the West.
 
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A horrific culture that unfortunately happens to have the monopoly on an extremely valuable commodity.

No they don't, they have a large share in it, but it's clearly overpriced with where consumption is headed, now they're running scared trying to buy up the West so they can still stay "safe", while continuing to murder people willy-nilly.

Unfortunately for them that just isn't going to work.

Quite frankly, if literally no other conflict over the past 60 years occurred in the ME and it was SA that was taken out, we'd be a much better world.
 
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Thailand will likely play along with Saudi Arabia, but there's hope if we can get enough publicity on this that they wont. I'm reminded of the case of that Saudi girl who managed to escape with the help of a Western specialist and was then betrayed by the Indian government which allowed Saudi forces to storm her boat in their waters and drag her back to Saudi. She's been seen once since, in still photographs, where she looks drugged. Which is believable because they drugged her before.

It's telling that this woman only managed to escape when she was in Kuwait "which, unlike Saudi Arabia, doesn’t require a male relative’s approval for a woman to leave the country." Every woman in Saudi Arabia is a prisoner. They require male consent by husband or father to attend higher education, have a job, travel or marry. It's horrific.

She was a princess or related to the Royal family, she wasnt going to get far. Im amazed she got as far as she did. Was on Radio 4.

Imagine a feminist backlash against this, but there wont be, too much hard work.
 
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Sadly I have to agree with some of the thread that until we start going against the Saudi government then I feel sorry for this woman.

Eventually we're going to clash with Saudi, and its not going to be a nice event.
 
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I read this earlier. What gets me is that the "view" of Thailand is that it's a "family problem" (there was reference to marriage) which is the reason for the deportation and not actually taking into account the persons own views. It's like they're dictating to everyone what her issue is and that shouldn't be stood for.

Its 2019, if someone is having to barricated themself in a hotel bedroom as they're scared for their life, something is seriosusly wrong.
 
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