Intel Core i9-9990XE: 14c/28t, 5.0 GHz boost, 255 W TDP

Stephanie Peterson · 15 Jan 2019 at 17:57

Ahh what a multi purpose CPU this will be, when its finished throttling itself to oblivion under stock conditions a quick MCE or similar over clock in the bios instantly give you a small supernova on the verge of collapse into a black hole.
If you time it right with the correct chipset, again from Intel, you stand a good chance of making a Tardis.

Intel, now breaking into the Time machine market - untapped as of yet by everyone nvidia and AMD who like to bring old video cards back to the future for mid range guff from time to time.

koooowweeee · 15 Jan 2019 at 22:04

I love these threads. So many experts

Jumper118 · 15 Jan 2019 at 23:22

1/2 a W3175X, pathetic, weak little cpu.

andy_mk3 · 16 Jan 2019 at 13:25

JCLDJB said:
Still though...14-Cores @5Ghz with HT is an Overclocker's dream..

The record holders are using 7980/9980xe's though, 18c/36t chips which will do 5ghz with good cooling, and 6ghz with sub-zero cooling. Far better off with those chips than a 14c chip which is going to cost god knows how much more.

JCLDJB · 17 Jan 2019 at 10:50

andy_mk3 said:
The record holders are using 7980/9980xe's though, 18c/36t chips which will do 5ghz with good cooling, and 6ghz with sub-zero cooling. Far better off with those chips than a 14c chip which is going to cost god knows how much more.

I am not arguing the fact the will cost an arm and a leg for anyone stupid enough to buy it.

But when comparing the 7980XE's 18C/36T and Frequencies (release almost 1.5 years ago), VS this newer 9980XE's 14C/28T, I do still think it might just surpass the 7980XE.

Difference in IPC perhaps? Improved efficiency of clocks or something (Intel's 7980XE was released in august 2017 after all, and this is a 2019 chip).

I dunno, I am most likely 100% wrong on this, but it's still an intriguing LN2 proposition I think.

Not that I am justifying it's price/clocks/TDP or even it's existence for that matter!

Intel's CEO can swallow that chip (flat contacts and all) for all I care!

DragonQ · 17 Jan 2019 at 11:04

Intel's Core architecture IPC hasn't changed since 2015 and hasn't changed much since 2013. It wouldn't randomly change on a no-warranty, no-retail chip.

LePhuronn · 17 Jan 2019 at 11:54

JCLDJB said:
But when comparing the 7980XE's 18C/36T and Frequencies (release almost 1.5 years ago), VS this newer 9980XE's 14C/28T, I do still think it might just surpass the 7980XE.

Difference in IPC perhaps? Improved efficiency of clocks or something (Intel's 7980XE was released in august 2017 after all, and this is a 2019 chip).

The 7980XE and the 9980XE are the same CPU. The only difference is Intel soldered the IHS on the 9980XE to boost the clocks a little. And by a little I mean about 200MHz. Not that I would condone directing people to Linus Tech Tips, but he covers this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ww2vNAjN0

The 9990XE is just going to be the same thing, only using a 9940XE and removing all safety limits to allow you to push to 5GHz. That's why there's no warranty.

JCLDJB · 17 Jan 2019 at 12:38

LePhuronn said:
Not that I would condone directing people to Linus Tech Tips, but he covers this:

Yeah that's a fair statement. xD

LePhuronn said:
The 7980XE and the 9980XE are the same CPU. The only difference is Intel soldered the IHS on the 9980XE to boost the clocks a little. And by a little I mean about 200MHz. Not that I would condone directing people to Linus Tech Tips, but he covers this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ww2vNAjN0

The 9990XE is just going to be the same thing, only using a 9940XE and removing all safety limits to allow you to push to 5GHz. That's why there's no warranty.

Yeah it's true that the lack of Warranty basically means "here's something we created, but we have no idea if it'll work for a week, month or year..but here it is anyways"..sad really.

DragonQ said:
Intel's Core architecture IPC hasn't changed since 2015 and hasn't changed much since 2013. It wouldn't randomly change on a no-warranty, no-retail chip.

Oh no doubt the core arc hasn't changed much, but the increased L3 Cache and higher memory frequency support of CoffeeLake VS SkyLake 14++++++ do count for something though, no?

(again, I'm not defending it, just a healthy discussion/debate/exchange of words)

4K8KW10 · 17 Jan 2019 at 14:33

JCLDJB said:
Oh no doubt the core arc hasn't changed much, but the increased L3 Cache and higher memory frequency support of CoffeeLake VS SkyLake 14++++++ do count for something though, no?

In the days of the Athlon 64 vs Pentium 4, no one would even bother to change the so called generation with the only difference being higher frequency.
Begin with Pentium 4 2.5 GHz, Athlon 64 2600+, Pentium 4 2.8 GHz, Athlon 64 3000+, Pentium 4 3.2 GHz, Athlon 64 3400+, Pentium 4 3.4 GHz, Athlon 64 3700+, all the way up to Athlon 64 X2 5000+ vs Pentium EE 965 3.73 GHz.

EsaT · 17 Jan 2019 at 15:07

gbgt2 said:
A ridiculous 255 W TDP and no warranty? I can see people just rushing to get hold of one ..

8 core 9900K has 200W max consumption if cooling (or BIOS) doesn't limit automatic boosting.
Now do you think 14 cores is going to fit into 255W?

JCLDJB said:
Still though...14-Cores @5Ghz with HT is an ~~Overclocker's dream..~~ 400W space heater.

Now it's correct.
Already 8 cores @5GHz has 250W max consumption.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900k-9th-gen-cpu,5847-11.html

BongoHunter · 17 Jan 2019 at 15:17

EsaT said:
8 core 9900K has 200W max consumption if cooling (or BIOS) doesn't limit automatic boosting.
Now do you think 14 cores is going to fit into 255W?

Now it's correct.
Already 8 cores @5GHz has 250W max consumption.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900k-9th-gen-cpu,5847-11.html

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Hang on a mo - is this chip meant to do all core boost to 5ghz with only 255w?

Surely that's not possible with the laws of physics!

pandem0nium · 18 Jan 2019 at 23:54

Got to admire intel on their commitment to raising TDP. 500w with inferno lake is on the road map for 2020.

pingu666 · 19 Jan 2019 at 04:45

does remind me of the pentium 1.13?ghz that was released and recalled

shamus21 · 19 Jan 2019 at 07:01

desperate comes to mind.

Nutella33 · 19 Jan 2019 at 13:56

BongoHunter said:
Hang on a mo - is this chip meant to do all core boost to 5ghz with only 255w?

Surely that's not possible with the laws of physics!

TDP isn't a figure of how high the power draw is. A 9900k for example has a TDP of 95W but pulls over 200W. It's a measure of heat dissipation, and one that each company calculates differently.

pingu666 · 21 Jan 2019 at 03:27

tdp has been a mostly lie for awhile now hasnt it?

DragonQ · 21 Jan 2019 at 08:33

pingu666 said:
tdp has been a mostly lie for awhile now hasnt it?

Mostly because of (some) motherboard manufacturers ignoring TDP limits by default, possibly at Intel's behest.

Silent_Scone · 21 Jan 2019 at 11:30

Niche is an understatement, but this isn't aimed at anyone posting in here. 14 physical cores running at 5GHz-5.2GHz on a 9940X will still wipe the floor for the time being. Heck, it's not as though you could offer similar on Zen.

fadingfool · 30 Jan 2019 at 14:24

So if no-one bids I can get one of these for $1 right? Would replace my i7-7820X nicely.......