Xbox One X

ic1male · 17 Feb 2019 at 16:00

ljt said:
I thought the One X and One /S share exactly the same CPU architecture (jaguar), but just that the X is overclocked a few hundred mhz?

It is - 0.55GHz faster. I think @mid_gen is including the GPU which is indeed pretty capable.

But there are rumours that Microsoft is releasing two Xbox Next consoles - one which is likely to have a similar GPU to the Xbox One X but with a Zen 2 CPU and another more expensive model with better GPU. So why would they keep supporting the Xbox One X if a cheaper Xbox Next (maybe priced at £299) is going to be launched with a CPU which will trounce the X?

We're beginning to see games coming out now that are hitting native 4K on X1X and 1440p on PS4 Pro. (No third party seems be giving two figs about checkerboarding now but that's another story.) The former wobbles around 25-30fps and the latter is more solid 30fps. So what will that be like next-gen when you've got a Zen CPU running the show? Even PC gamers with weaker CPUs will be in for a shock.

ljt · 17 Feb 2019 at 16:11

ic1male said:
It is - 0.55GHz faster. I think @mid_gen is including the GPU which is indeed pretty capable.

But there are rumours that Microsoft is releasing two Xbox Next consoles - one which is likely to have a similar GPU to the Xbox One X but with a Zen 2 CPU and another more expensive model with better GPU. So why would they keep supporting the Xbox One X if a cheaper Xbox Next (maybe priced at £299) is going to be launched with a CPU which will trounce the X?

We're beginning to see games coming out now that are hitting native 4K on X1X and 1440p on PS4 Pro. (No third party seems be giving two figs about checkerboarding now but that's another story.) The former wobbles around 25-30fps and the latter is more solid 30fps. So what will that be like next-gen when you've got a Zen CPU running the show? Even PC gamers with weaker CPUs will be in for a shock.

Yeah the CPU's are the weakest link by far, even keeping the current One X GPU and pairing it with the newer Zen CPU's, would alleviate a lot of the fluctuating framerate issues.

willhub · 17 Feb 2019 at 18:53

I think I'll be buying the XBOX 2 at release at this rate, PC combined to games like FPS and cities skylines. It's a tough market out there

mid_gen · 18 Feb 2019 at 07:09

ljt said:
Yeah the CPU's are the weakest link by far, even keeping the current One X GPU and pairing it with the newer Zen CPU's, would alleviate a lot of the fluctuating framerate issues.

The hardware isn't as much of an issue tbh Zen isn't going to usher in a new era of games. The barriers to performance are more a software engineering issue at this stage with the number of cores available.

mmj_uk · 23 Feb 2019 at 20:07

That's not true with Xbox One X if they had replaced the CPU with say a quad core Ryzen which has far faster cores you would have seen a massive increase in frame-rate without even touching any code and any bottlenecks would have been caused by the GPU running at 4K.

The idea that loads of tiny cores are as good as fewer and faster cores and that any performance issues are down to lazy developers should have died along with Bulldozer. Games aren't really suited to parallel processing.

hyperseven · 4 Mar 2019 at 15:16

New method to purchase cheap games from foreign xbox markets. Need a Revolut virtual MasterCard.

Metro Exodus £11.38
The Division 2 £22.78
Far Cry 5 £4.28
Assassins Creed Odyssey Ultimate edition £11.27
Dirt rally 2 deluxe £12.53
Sekiro £34.12
Trials Rising £6.62

https://xbox-store-checker.com/en/new-method-how-to-pay-on-all-stores-without-gift-cards/

Fill yer boots before Microsoft decide to block this, again :cool:

For foreign address I always use a local Hilton hotel.

EDIT: Works a treat. Just bought Trials Rising and Dolby Headphone without issue.

grant666uk · 4 Mar 2019 at 20:21

hyperseven said:
New method to purchase cheap games from foreign xbox markets. Need a Revolut virtual MasterCard.

https://xbox-store-checker.com/en/new-method-how-to-pay-on-all-stores-without-gift-cards/

Fill yer boots before Microsoft decide to block this, again

For foreign address I always use a local Hilton hotel.

EDIT: Works a treat. Just bought Trials Rising and Dolby Headphone without issue.

Just got Metro and The division 2. Metro cash came off right away. Take it D2 will not come off tell release day ?

Zico · 4 Mar 2019 at 20:58

Microsoft charge your credit card 10 days before a pre-order title is due for release (or that's what I remember from looking the last time).

Taken from the MS Store on clicking to buy The Division 2:

By selecting Buy, you agree to the Store terms of sale. If you pay for the entire order with your Microsoft account balance, it'll be charged immediately. If you use another way to pay for part or all of your order, you'll be charged up to 10 days before the release date. You'll be able to download your content immediately on release and thus lose any right to a "cooling-off" period during which you could cancel this purchase and get a refund after the release date.

grant666uk · 4 Mar 2019 at 21:20

Zico said:
Microsoft charge your credit card 10 days before a pre-order title is due for release (or that's what I remember from looking the last time).

Taken from the MS Store on clicking to buy The Division 2:

By selecting Buy, you agree to the Store terms of sale. If you pay for the entire order with your Microsoft account balance, it'll be charged immediately. If you use another way to pay for part or all of your order, you'll be charged up to 10 days before the release date. You'll be able to download your content immediately on release and thus lose any right to a "cooling-off" period during which you could cancel this purchase and get a refund after the release date.

Cheers bud.

McBain · 4 Mar 2019 at 23:38

hyperseven said:
New method to purchase cheap games from foreign xbox markets. Need a Revolut virtual MasterCard.

https://xbox-store-checker.com/en/new-method-how-to-pay-on-all-stores-without-gift-cards/

Fill yer boots before Microsoft decide to block this, again

For foreign address I always use a local Hilton hotel.

EDIT: Works a treat. Just bought Trials Rising and Dolby Headphone without issue.

Cool thanks for this, worked fine for me, bought Metro Gold edition for £15ish and pre ordered Sekiro.

Stokesy · 5 Mar 2019 at 09:02

I assume you can switch the language to English and aren't stuck playing the game in Spanish or whatever other language?

The Assassin's Creed Odyssey Gold/Ultimate Editions look like decent value as you also get the remastered Assassin's Creed III and Liberation with it.

McBain · 5 Mar 2019 at 09:52

Stokesy said:
I assume you can switch the language to English and aren't stuck playing the game in Spanish or whatever other language?

The Assassin's Creed Odyssey Gold/Ultimate Editions look like decent value as you also get the remastered Assassin's Creed III and Liberation with it.

Every time I've done this in the past the game has been in English.

Bigpig · 6 Mar 2019 at 18:10

Just tried it won't work

took 60p out twice then told to contact Microsoft support

Dannyb01y · 6 Mar 2019 at 21:19

Bigpig said:
Just tried it won't work took 60p out twice then told to contact Microsoft support

They've blocked it again now.

hyperseven · 9 Mar 2019 at 02:06

Crackdown 2 now BC and is free to download :eek:

https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/...acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d5308bc?noSplash=1

DeanT77 · 9 Mar 2019 at 09:27

Probably an apology for No. 3 being such a let down

ic1male · 9 Mar 2019 at 10:08

DeanT77 said:
Probably an apology for No. 3 being such a let down

LOL, by giving away something even worse? Pretty nice of them though. That's both the originals given away for nothing. Can't complain.

DeanT77 · 9 Mar 2019 at 10:28

ic1male said:
LOL, by giving away something even worse? Pretty nice of them though. That's both the originals given away for nothing. Can't complain.

I've only ever played the first, I was hoping that the second was as good or better? Guessing that it isn't then by your comment?

ic1male · 9 Mar 2019 at 11:06

DeanT77 said:
I've only ever played the first, I was hoping that the second was as good or better? Guessing that it isn't then by your comment?

Crackdown > Crackdown 3 > Crackdown 2 is my order.

I only played Crackdown 2 once - when it first came out but never finished it. It didn't have the same "feeling" as the first game.

Raggs · 23 Apr 2019 at 18:53

just got the game pass my external portable hard drive has filled up rapidly was thinking of buying a new 8tb WD external, is it a painless experience to transfer the data off a existing external too a new one ? it can be done by the console it's self i believe with no faffing with a pc ?