Is this a potential scam? (private sale on Gumtree)

Shadowness · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:01

I asked which company would be collecting.....

Palette delivery.

hmmmm.......

I've already stated in the ad collection, as it comes in a hard case, and I don't want to deal with the agro of packing it up.

touch · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:05

i am willing to pay your full asking price

Scam.

tamzzy · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:06

face-to-face, cash only, caveat emptor

Haggisman · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:23

touch said:
Scam.

This. If you're selling on Gumtree, then unless they're offering you 10% of the asking price or a swap for 3 used 9v batteries, a box of VHS tapes of 90s TV game shows, and a size 18 wedding dress, then it's clearly a scam :/

NMBlack · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:26

Paypal don't accept proof of postage as proof of delivery, plus you'd be assuming that the courier the buyer sent to collect the guitar was a legitimate courier and not just a mate of his/her on a motorbike.

NMBlack · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:27

Vargas said:
Please send me his email. I have had lots of fun with him in the past.

You can't just leave it like that.....tell us more!

Rannoch · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:34

NMBlack said:
You can't just leave it like that.....tell us more!

I reply from fake addresses going along with the scam. I then make excuses for not paying the bank transfer, I drag it out as long as possible. Sometimes he emails me 10-20 times a day chasing the payment

Shadowness · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:37

I was tempted to give a dummy address and see what happens with the payment.

SexyGreyFox · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:52

Haggisman said:
This. If you're selling on Gumtree, then unless they're offering you 10% of the asking price or a swap for 3 used 9v batteries, a box of VHS tapes of 90s TV game shows, and a size 18 wedding dress, then it's clearly a scam :/

Not necessarily, this evening a bloke is bringing me a Line 6 Firehawk FX for £115 in a Gator case and I didn't have the heart to get it cheaper.
As long as it's working he doesn't know I'm going to put £10 on for delivering it to me.

Syla5 · 7 Mar 2019 at 15:53

Shadowness said:
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The paypal element is what makes this scream scam.

I just brought a set of winter wheels and tyres for my wifes car, and I had them collected by a courier, but I paid via bank transfer. There is a huge trust element and myself and seller went back and forth in emails at least 30-40 in total just to hash out all the details, confirm courier collection, final price, and an agreed payment timing window.

I paid for the courier, and the seller agreed for them to be collected, and I then made payment as soon as they had been.

Paypal - never, no protection for the seller at all.

Efour · 7 Mar 2019 at 16:08

Megahurtz400 said:
I’ve read nothing but the title and I can say that yes, 100% scam.

I didnt even read the title just SCAM, still got my eyes shut too. How the hell did i turn my pc on...

IvanDobskey · 7 Mar 2019 at 16:21

Vargas said:
I reply from fake addresses going along with the scam. I then make excuses for not paying the bank transfer, I drag it out as long as possible. Sometimes he emails me 10-20 times a day chasing the payment

Lol, that's excellent

Shampoo · 7 Mar 2019 at 16:32

Good God! Of course it's a scam. You can tell from the first sentence and how it's written.

mushtafa · 7 Mar 2019 at 16:58

Na, it's fine, crack on

Feek · 7 Mar 2019 at 17:43

mushtafa said:
Na, it's fine, crack on

Let us know how your new guitar is when you receive it.

CREATIVE!11 · 7 Mar 2019 at 17:50

Shadowness said:
I'm selling my guitar on Gumtree (I won't post the link as this isn't an ad)

Just been contacted with this (after an initial email to ask if it's for sale)

Now to me there are a number of red flags.....BUT if I send my paypal address and the money is recieved, then quids in yes?

The only thing I'm worried about is her saying she's never received it, and demands her money back.
So would the courier she's arranging provide me proof of collection? Can I demand that somehow?

Thoughts?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

You do realise how this scam works? they tried it on me funnily enough when I sold my old guitar. They will send you money from a potentially stolen/compromised paypal account or stolen credit card. You will then send said guitar thinking they've paid me and all of sudden find the funds missing from your account after a charge back a day or two later.

Seriously, people shouldn't even be asking this question.....

GUMTREE IS ONLY CASH ON COLLECTION!!! no excuses.

Edit: It actually makes me furious to even have to explain this to people.... this type of scam is such common knowledge at this point.

Just don't OP.....

Rannoch · 7 Mar 2019 at 18:03

The PayPal account used by the Nigerians isn’t stolen or hacked. For example, if your selling a computer for £1000, they send a fake email from PayPal with funds for £1500. £500 is for the fake delivery company and they ask you to send that to one of those online credit cards etc. If you don’t pay they threaten legal action and the police with another fake email from PayPal.

If you question why the PayPal funds aren’t showing in your account, they advise you to contact a fake PayPal email address used by the scammer. They say the funds are on hold until you pay the courier fee.

That’s where the fun begins.

da_mic_1530 · 7 Mar 2019 at 18:24

Feek said:
Let us know how your new guitar is when you receive it.

Ha got a lol out of me on the train

Mr Badger · 7 Mar 2019 at 18:44

Take the money, don't send the guitar, create an entertaining blog of your ongoing correspondence.

Shadowness · 7 Mar 2019 at 18:56

CREATIVE!11 said:
You will then send said guitar thinking they've paid me and all of sudden find the funds missing from your account after a charge back a day or two later.

But I wouldn't have done anything until the funds cleared into my BANK account. Not PayPal.