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Depends, obviously the higher single core boost speed means you get better all core boost, but how much lower will the all core boosts be? Guessing 200-400mhz
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As long as it isn't tomato ketchup or mayonnaise then I'll be fine with it.
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As always, it's down to budget or justification. Personally, I'm getting the Ryzen 5 3600.
More cores is better. Higher clocks give higher framerate but more spare cores give higher system responsiveness.
I tend to just opt for the tried and tested route that most folk have gone for really.
I did notice the R5 3600 in the spec list and would probably be looking at similar. I haven't really thought much about budget really. It's been 8 years since I upgraded so will have to probably spend a decent wedge.
I did notice the R5 3600 in the spec list and would probably be looking at similar. I haven't really thought much about budget really. It's been 8 years since I upgraded so will have to probably spend a decent wedge.
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I do recall seeing somewhere an enhanced view of the traces on that die shot above. IIRC, the enhanced image seemed to suggest a crossbar toplogy with what appears to be a thick horizontal interconnect separating 4 cores on either side, and a thick vertical interconnect leading to the other chiplet. Since we're expecting the L3 to be on the IO die, the complexity of cross-CCX communication shouldn't impact latency in unpredictable ways; all L3 checks will be going to the IO irrespective of which core's L1 and L2 it was previously held in.
The question appears to be whether going to the IO for L3 adds greater latency overall than the increased size L1 and L2 are reducing the need to even go to L3.
The question appears to be whether going to the IO for L3 adds greater latency overall than the increased size L1 and L2 are reducing the need to even go to L3.
That's what I took from it also. I guess time will tell!
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The 8 core R5 3600/X will be fine for gaming.
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R5 3600 or x will be perfect for me, can't wait.
Hurry up and realese the damn things.
Hurry up and realese the damn things.
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I wouldn't mind the 3700x for the clock speed especially, i might give it a try but I'm also tempted to wait for Intel's response as well, but not the chip on 14nm yet again.
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We wont see anything concrete until the reviewers get samples
I'm hoping we get some better motherboards this time, x370 etc were ok, not great with a couple of exceptions, my CH6 is decent mind.
x470 were a bit better but not hugely it seems..
This time round I'm hoping there's some really great B550 boards, I think this time I'm going to go for the B series and put the saved cash to other areas of the PC
x470 were a bit better but not hugely it seems..
This time round I'm hoping there's some really great B550 boards, I think this time I'm going to go for the B series and put the saved cash to other areas of the PC
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It's never worth "cheaping out" on a mobo if you want the best from a cpu. The CH6 was and still is a top class AM4 mobo, as a quick look at the Cinebench R20 thread will prove. As it stands, none of us knows for certain if Zen2 actually will need a 570x mobo to perform at it's best. I for one will keep my CH6 until it's proved beyond doubt that a 570x will actually perform better than a CH6.
My motherboard only cost me £80 and has been holding a 3570k and then this 3770k @4.5ghz for many years, I agree it's best not to go too cheap but the CH6 is overkill for most.
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They've used slightly troubling terms like doubling throughout in certain tasks (paraphrasing).
General compute at home is not massively parallel operations that fit within L2, for example.
I'm cautiously optimistic but the cynic (realist?) in me thinks Zen2 will be a mixed bag again
It will be. First attempt with a brand new design and execution, must be not polished.
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im either gonna get a 3600 or one of the ryzen 3300 depending on performance difference , as the rumoured 3300 price seems super cheap and difficult to ignore and a six core still pretty solid.