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Not noticed anything myself.
Mine is getting long in the tooth but still flying without any noticeable degredation.
Mine is getting long in the tooth but still flying without any noticeable degredation.
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Any legs in this ref the x58 platforms mysteriously losing performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PBZyyU8Xx0
Or is it the spectre microcode patching at work as suggested in a number of comments, what is the experience of current x58 users, noticed anything? I used to have one these beasts at 4.4ghz much earlier in the thread and was about to buy a dell workstation as a workhorse until I saw the above.
Any legs in this ref the x58 platforms mysteriously losing performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PBZyyU8Xx0
Or is it the spectre microcode patching at work as suggested in a number of comments, what is the experience of current x58 users, noticed anything? I used to have one these beasts at 4.4ghz much earlier in the thread and was about to buy a dell workstation as a workhorse until I saw the above.
I doubt anyone in this thread would advocate buying a used X58 system right now in almost any circumstances. Only useful for those who bought such a system back in the day.
I'm looking at potentials purchases for this CPU, i don't know much about 32nm Xeon compatibility with 1366 X58 boards so if you don't mind giving me a yae or nay for some boards that i come across. thanks
Biostar T-Power X58 LGA1366
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-OC rev
I don't think i have access to their MM and we are not allowed to talk about MM stuff on the main forum, send me an email by clicking on my Trust.
I doubt anyone in this thread would advocate buying a used X58 system right now in almost any circumstances. Only useful for those who bought such a system back in the day.
I've just priced up an X58 system
i7 980X = £80
ASUS SABERTOOTH X58 = £125
12GB DDR3 = £35
£240, there are more expensive Boards and Ram and cheaper but if you're going to overclock these components to get the performance out of the system i figure you're not going to want the crappiest stuff.
If what you are looking for is good performance for little money yeah its not bad but these components are 10 years old, how trustworthy is the longevity and reliability of these components?
The thing is Intel are no longer competing with themselves in their older platforms, for me the argument that "Intel are gimping their older platforms through planed obsolescence" doesn't make any sense, smart savvy people who look for performance bargains are not going to be looking at Intel's brand new hardware.
Ryzen 1600X = £150
Asus Prime B350-Plus = £80
16GB DDR4 3200Mhz = £130
£360, yes its £120 more but its all brand new with warranty and very high standards of productivity and gaming performance. Intel's current performance equivalent to that is a 9600K and that's £270, £120 more than the 1600X and £30 more than the whole X58 System i priced up.
Yes Tech City need to change their message to stay relevant instead of moaning about it and throwing around conspiracy theories.
why would you buy i7 980x, you could buy a x5650 for £12-£15.
If you can get motherboard, cpu and ram and cooler for under £100 its well worth it. Because unlikely you can get similar performing system for that price. I have seen quite few sell on OCUK forum for that price. Ebay is only good for cheap CPU everything else scour Forums.
Having run one of these platforms for years I would not recommend them now unless you have an extremely serious budget constraint.
The difference between these and newer stuff is quite pronounced IMO
Didn't have an issue with gaming, I'm always GPU constrained in that regards as I only buy mid-range graphics cards.I totally agree with you, the numbers dont lie, but just wondering what situations you saw the bottleneck? Was it in gaming (with unlocked framerates) as well as productivity? I'm still planning my upgrade but surprised how well I can still run every modern game, albeit at 1440p60 only. Wouldn't recommend anyone trying to search it out for a gaming rig from scratch, but there's def legs in just going the Xeon route.
And when I do upgrade I'm sure I'll unlock even more from the GPU for an added bonus
Didn't have an issue with gaming, I'm always GPU constrained in that regards as I only buy mid-range graphics cards.
Main issues for me were with virtualization and anything that was super heavy on disk IO. Newer SATA/NVME, and more PCIE lanes + extra memory bandwidth and access to higher core count CPUs are all good reasons to pick newer kit if your doing a lot of work
Not noticed anything myself.
Mine is getting long in the tooth but still flying without any noticeable degredation.
I've just priced up an X58 system
i7 980X = £80
ASUS SABERTOOTH X58 = £125
12GB DDR3 = £35
£240, there are more expensive Boards and Ram and cheaper but if you're going to overclock these components to get the performance out of the system i figure you're not going to want the crappiest stuff.
If what you are looking for is good performance for little money yeah its not bad but these components are 10 years old, how trustworthy is the longevity and reliability of these components?
The thing is Intel are no longer competing with themselves in their older platforms, for me the argument that "Intel are gimping their older platforms through planed obsolescence" doesn't make any sense, smart savvy people who look for performance bargains are not going to be looking at Intel's brand new hardware.
Ryzen 1600X = £150
Asus Prime B350-Plus = £80
16GB DDR4 3200Mhz = £130
£360, yes its £120 more but its all brand new with warranty and very high standards of productivity and gaming performance. Intel's current performance equivalent to that is a 9600K and that's £270, £120 more than the 1600X and £30 more than the whole X58 System i priced up.
Yes Tech City need to change their message to stay relevant instead of moaning about it and throwing around conspiracy theories.