Adult content - Age Verification system - April 2018

[FoxEye]

Listening to the Parliament Channel atm. Scary stuff.

MPs getting up and saying, "We need to get rid of anonymity." "How are we going to weaken/break end-to-end encryption." "Search engines should have a duty of care to report searches to police." "Misinformation is a key harm we want to adress; "good" journalists should be protected..." (which presumably means bad journalists are being targeted).

Police state here we come.

 

[Marky]

BBC News - UK to introduce porn age-checks in July

Looks like the new date is 15th July.

 

[Raggs]

aye 15th july the vpn companies will be doing a roaring trade , the ceo's must be rubbing there hands with glee will be interesting too see if the free vpn in opera defeats the block.

 

[Shocky-FM]

If they apply this to free sites they won't last long, nobody is going to provide ID, or card details to access this kind of content unless they're desperate.

 

[Burnsy2023]

But critics say teens may find it relatively easy to bypass the restriction or could simply turn to porn-hosting platforms not covered by the law.

Twitter, Reddit and image-sharing community Imgur, for example, will not be required to administer the scheme because they fall under an exception where more than a third of a site or app's content must be pornographic to qualify.

Likewise, any platform that hosts pornography but does not do so on a commercial basis - meaning it does not charge a fee or make money from adverts or other activity - will not be affected.

Furthermore, it will remain legal to use virtual private networks (VPNs), which can make it seem like a UK-based computer is located elsewhere, to evade the age checks.

I'm not sure VPNs will even be needed there's no many holes in the idea.

 

[Marky]

Do you think there will ever be a time when VPNs are blocked by ISPs? (Is that even possible?)

Surely this bill - if it actually happens - will just teach the uninitiated about how to use a VPN.

 

[IronWarrior]

Do you think there will ever be a time when VPNs are blocked by ISPs? (Is that even possible?)

Surely this bill - if it actually happens - will just teach the uninitiated about how to use a VPN.

Be impossible to block VPN's, too many business's use them, you be shooting yourselves in the head, but I wouldn't be surprised to see our government try.

Ah well, the far left got their way and now we have to buy porn licences to fap, because you gotta be stupid to use your bank card or other ID, 100% guarantee that database is gonna be hacked.

 

[Jean-F]

BBC News - UK to introduce porn age-checks in July

Looks like the new date is 15th July.

On that link, it says High Street shops can provide a “porn pass” after face-to-face verification, surely that doesn’t mean that if the shopkeeper thinks that you’re over 18, he’ll sell you a pass?
I imagine that it means that you produce valid photo ID, then you’ll be sold the pass, but your data will then be stored somewhere, can’t see many going for that option, for the amount of times that I’ve looked at porn, I’d just give it up.

 

[FTM]

all back to IRC and newsrooms!

 

[Marky]

Be impossible to block VPN's, too many business's use them, you be shooting yourselves in the head, but I wouldn't be surprised to see our government try.

Ah well, the far left got their way and now we have to buy porn licences to fap, because you gotta be stupid to use your bank card or other ID, 100% guarantee that database is gonna be hacked.

Fair point indeed.

I hope the database does get hacked - and I hope there are loads of MPs on it

 

[evilmatt]

Be impossible to block VPN's, too many business's use them, you be shooting yourselves in the head, but I wouldn't be surprised to see our government try.

Well, our government certainly has no track record for shooting itself in the head over any dumb ideological populist nonsense, especially anything damaging to business, so we should be fine

 

[FoxEye]

aye 15th july the vpn companies will be doing a roaring trade , the ceo's must be rubbing there hands with glee

And their users will also be rubbing their hands with ... glee, perhaps

 

[bigmike20vt]

a bit close to the bone but this made me smile.

"The Conservative party, full of ****, but they wont let you look at any."

 

[FoxEye]

Do you think there will ever be a time when VPNs are blocked by ISPs? (Is that even possible?)

Surely this bill - if it actually happens - will just teach the uninitiated about how to use a VPN.

No it's just HTTPS traffic so whilst you can likely spot people using VPNs, you probably can't block them unless you're prepared to throw the baby out with the dishwater (false positives).

Also you'd probably identify work VPNs (legitimate business use) and end up blocking those too. Although you could have white-listing and licenses to run VPNs over specific IPs, if you wanted to get draconian.

They can go after the providers tho. Blocking domains and IP address ranges as they do atm with torrent sites. Although that's not exactly effective as implemented currently. But they could black-list more effectively at the ISP level and simply drop the traffic if they wanted. Doubt ISPs would be too happy.

 

[bigmike20vt]

hope no one minds a little segue however i accidentally left my vpn running last night as it happens and amazon prime video refused to work and told me to disable my VPN.

I thought the whole point of a VPN was to spoof your address, if software knows you are doing it, is that not a bit defeating the point?

 

[G-MAN2004]

hope no one minds a little segue however i accidentally left my vpn running last night as it happens and amazon prime video refused to work and told me to disable my VPN.

I thought the whole point of a VPN was to spoof your address, if software knows you are doing it, is that not a bit defeating the point?

A lot have problems with streaming services such as Netflix and Amazon. I know with some they have a separate IP you can use specifically for those services, but I guess that depends on how much money you're willing to spend.

 

[FoxEye]

hope no one minds a little segue however i accidentally left my vpn running last night as it happens and amazon prime video refused to work and told me to disable my VPN.

I thought the whole point of a VPN was to spoof your address, if software knows you are doing it, is that not a bit defeating the point?

There's a number of ways they can detect you're using a VPN. Esp if you're using an App or Javascript is enabled in your browser, etc.

Even without those they can detect that your traffic is being routed via a VPN even if they don't know who you are or what your IP is.

 

[bigmike20vt]

cool thanks for the info.
with that in mind i suppose "adult" sites could do similar...... one could argue if you want to look at pron you should not feel ashamed to need to use a VPN assuming of legal age etc. (I cant think of a legitimate business use for looking at pr0n over a VPN )

it boggles me anyway..... this kind of thing should be down to parents and not the government to play morality police.
give people the tools, as well as the education to use the tools to parent responsibly.

 

[Minusorange]

Well, our government certainly has no track record for shooting itself in the head over any dumb ideological populist nonsense, especially anything damaging to business, so we should be fine

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47962405

bwahahahaha so much irony

 

[Steampunk]

it boggles me anyway..... this kind of thing should be down to parents and not the government to play morality police.
give people the tools, as well as the education to use the tools to parent responsibly.

It's just an excuse to put the control systems in place ("think of the children!"). Once those control systems are in place, watch the over-reach happen. Don't forget this system was originally put in place to block paedophiles. Then for counterfeiting. Then for IP copying. Now for pornography. What's going to be next?