Flu is one thing but having a cold is not an excuse to not go in to work.
Sick days off work: how many is too many per year ?
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People don't normally get a yearly bout of the norovirus.
Sickness is a very tricky thing for businesses to manage/control. On one hand you want to be fair to your employees when they're ill, but on the other hand you don't want them taking the ****.
That one of the problems now as most the people at my work place used to carry on working when they had a cold but that has now changed and were told we must go home (Not come in) so not to pass it on to other workers
Soldato
It's interesting to see how everyone assumes 'sick' means you have a cold/stomach bug etc, there are plenty of other reasons to take time off and it'll be marked down as 'sick'. My current employer has a max of 20 in a 12 month period at normal pay, then you go to SSP. Anything over 2 days or something requires a doctor's note.
I'm not sure I've had time off for colds/bugs in many, many years but I have had plenty of time off 'sick' though for other reasons, including over 20 days in a 12 month period which wasn't fun.
I'm not sure I've had time off for colds/bugs in many, many years but I have had plenty of time off 'sick' though for other reasons, including over 20 days in a 12 month period which wasn't fun.
Soldato
I don't think that was the question the OP asked.
Yeah, everyone at work needs to feel like **** for 5 days because 1 person couldn't stay home for a few days
I go to the doctor and get a sick note almost every time am off sick
Caporegime
Sick pay is pretty rubbish, what would be the benefit in feigning it?
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that depends on where you work. if your work has harsh and strict policies along with managers who can't use best judgement it means people will come in when sick.
if your work is lax about it then obviously you can take days off, etc.
It's a cold, you're not exactly on deaths bed. Stop being so preciousYeah, everyone at work needs to feel like **** for 5 days because 1 person couldn't stay home for a few days
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Soldato
I mean my current place's requirement is something like 2 days, I don't know the actual figure here as I rarely/don't tend to get ill. 1 day seems a bit of a waste of time to get a note though, especially given it can take a week or more to get a doctor's appointment?
But if you past it on to someone else at work that person then pasts it onto there family & friends and so on
Yea, then everyone else in the office gets it too. Which lowers productivity even more. We usually tell people to go home.
Thing is though, you can't actually sack someone for being ill (without being open to being sued). It's on the employer to prove you were not ill which is pretty much impossible.
If people are off ill all the time they should probably look at their working conditions.
Thing is though, you can't actually sack someone for being ill (without being open to being sued). It's on the employer to prove you were not ill which is pretty much impossible.
If people are off ill all the time they should probably look at their working conditions.
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We use Bradford where I work (on a rolling 12 month period), and I have to enforce it, but HR ALWAYS make you come down harshly on everyone.
1 guy who works for us has probably one of the best attendance records (prior to this last 12 months) but mid 2018 got seriously ill, almost passed out at work (went grey) was in hospital for a couple of weeks, came back to work way earlier than he should have done due to staff shortages. Then somebody else came in to work with cold/flu a month or so ago and passed it on to him, he then received a disciplinary and verbal warning.
I absolutely hate it, its stupid.
My boss is one of those guys that think you should drag yourself in to work unless you are dying, its such an antiquated way of managing sickness.
And companies don't sack people for being sick, they sack them for taking too much time off
"breaching the companies acceptable level of absence", which amounts to the same thing, just worded in a way that they can't be prosecuted.
1 guy who works for us has probably one of the best attendance records (prior to this last 12 months) but mid 2018 got seriously ill, almost passed out at work (went grey) was in hospital for a couple of weeks, came back to work way earlier than he should have done due to staff shortages. Then somebody else came in to work with cold/flu a month or so ago and passed it on to him, he then received a disciplinary and verbal warning.
I absolutely hate it, its stupid.
My boss is one of those guys that think you should drag yourself in to work unless you are dying, its such an antiquated way of managing sickness.
And companies don't sack people for being sick, they sack them for taking too much time off
"breaching the companies acceptable level of absence", which amounts to the same thing, just worded in a way that they can't be prosecuted.
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Caporegime
Maybe I’ve read it wrong, but that’s 50 days a year. Nearly three working months. That seems far too much.
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yes you definitely read it wrong
Caporegime
You read it wrong.
You can have 1 days, 5 times.
or 2 days, 5 times.
or 5 days twice.
No difference. but anything more than 5 (or was it 3, i forgot) consecutive days you will need a medical note.
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I think if you took it to a tribunal it wouldn't be seen that way. People have sued and got big payouts from companies for it.
A place I worked at maybe 10 years ago were hounding someone over illness. He brought a union rep in who tore their HR to shreds.