Consumers aren't customers for embedded (though embedded systems are in increasingly more consumer products). And, yes, businesses do care very much where the bandwidth and latency are needed or desirable.
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Consumers aren't customers for embedded (though embedded systems are in increasingly more consumer products). And, yes, businesses do care very much where the bandwidth and latency are needed or desirable.
Aye but that bandwidth on disk i/o at any business of any size is handled by a good size San over fibre. I've done more infrastructure projects than I can remember and very few businesses are using the PCI-e capabilities at least in my finance/law background.
Some transport, definitely automotive, some industrial (and probably many other things).
This is compete crap.
A gpu that only supports pcie 3.0 will mean the pcie 4.0 lanes will fall back to the pcie 3.0 protocol for compatibility.
Then you will have 2 cards connected to 8 physical lanes each running at the pcie 3.0 speeds, just like you have now.
Try putting an old gpu in that only supports pcie 2.0 and then run gpu-z. See what it tells you the lanes are running at - it won't be pcie 3.0.
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And you do know how the manufacturers have wired their motherboards?
Can you tell me of a single pcie 3.0 motherboard that does what you are saying with pcie 2.0 GPU's?
I'm calling bull mate sorry.
There was never even the most minimal chance that it wouldn't. Plan always was, and still is, to launch it a few weeks after Ryzen, as previously.
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Threadripper has always been 6 months after mainstream Ryzen, not weeks. So 6 months in this case will be January 2020. So were did you get your information about a release within a few weeks?
This, It's the reason I didn't have a ryzen based cpu until about 6 months after ryzen release. TR will release (Im still scratching my head to work out why people think it wont) in about 6 months time.
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To be honest, Ryzen 3000 has broken the pattern: announce in some form December/January, launch March/April, Threadripper August 31st. But this time it's announce January, launch July, so who knows where Threadripper is ending up
But even if Threadripper stays in its traditional August 31st slot, that's still 3 months away, not a few weeks. Timeframes will be better established when we start hearing about X499 boards.
Edit: Gigabyte registered 3 X499 names with the EEC at the same time as their X570 listing.
To be honest, Ryzen 3000 has broken the pattern: announce in some form December/January, launch March/April, Threadripper August 31st. But this time it's announce January, launch July, so who knows where Threadripper is ending up
But even if Threadripper stays in its traditional August 31st slot, that's still 3 months away, not a few weeks.
Yea it's still a significant amount of time later and I agree, yes the release schedule is different but they won't just drop their HEDT lineup and stick a middle finger up to all that bought it. It's still more than relevant even with a 16 core AM4.
Channel says August / Sept for TR4. Gap was 4 months for zen+ and 5 months for zen. Not 6 months.
What you are forgetting is that TR4 availability has always begun in August.
Channel says the same this time. Think what you want.
Launch time window is far more important than the delay period. 6 months would put TR4 in January 2020. I can tell you now that is not happening. No way.
The academics and prosumer market that TR4 is generally aimed at are coming back from their summer holidays at the end of August and ready to buy new kit. It's also right around GamesCom. That is why they launch then.
What you are forgetting is that TR4 availability has always begun in August.
Channel says the same this time. Think what you want.
Launch time window is far more important than the delay period. 6 months would put TR4 in January 2020. I can tell you now that is not happening. No way.
The academics and prosumer market that TR4 is generally aimed at are coming back from their summer holidays at the end of August and ready to buy new kit. It's also right around GamesCom. That is why they launch then.
Does it really matter, 4, 5, 6 months... we wasn't exactly trying to be pinpoint accurate and exact in what we were saying, just pointing out it wasn't the following week or two? So long as it comes and makes TR4 owners happy I bet most of them, myself included, don't really care. We know it will come and when it does I am sure many will lap it up. All we really want is a mini epyc and oodles of power. Deliver that and the TR4 user base will love it.
My gut tells me that we have no chance in a few weeks. I recon we get it in November, dunno why I think that and am probably wrong but that is what I think.
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Oh boo hoo, I misremembered and though all Threadripper 1000 was August 31st, not August 10th for the 1950X. Such pedantry is entirely not the point we were discussing, but well done in being day accurate; I'm sure I have an internet cookie for you somewhere.
Now if the channel is still saying August this year then great. But that's still not weeks, is it.
As an aside, if the channel is saying August, then we better be getting some X499 board leaks soon.
I'm sort of hoping that I can just throw a chip in my taichi and be done with it. Fingers crossed.