Why no short throw 4K projectors?

GodAtum · 31 Dec 2018 at 18:42

I currently have the Optima 1080ST 2m away from my screen for over 100" image. Been looking for a 4k projector everywhere but nothing comes close to its throw ratio. Every 4k one needs at least 4m!!

keylion · 31 Dec 2018 at 19:37

This really annoys me as well. I have a BenQ W1080ST as we put it on a low table between the seating position and viewing wall.

When I bought the projector a few years ago there was a very limited choice in short throw models.

It's a shame to see there doesn't appear to be a 4K model available.

budge1972 · 31 Dec 2018 at 20:18

I,m still using my trusty Optoma GT760 short throw which has been really awesome for me, i only have a small living room and if they did a 4k version i'd be all over it. There are some ultra short throws out there but they are very pricey.
I may even go for a 75" LG tv next instead of another projector.

Quartz · 31 Dec 2018 at 20:37

GodAtum said:
I currently have the Optima 1080ST 2m away from my screen for over 100" image. Been looking for a 4k projector everywhere but nothing comes close to its throw ratio. Every 4k one needs at least 4m!!

They are available, if you have the money. Dell do the S718QL for £4400, for instance.

Usher · 31 Dec 2018 at 21:16

I have an Optima LED short throw, it gives off very little heat with low fan noise compared to the other types. Due to how our room is situated I have to put it on a low tripod, it's sound output however is rubbish so I end up with wires going everywhere with a mains power in, a 5mtr HDMI to connect to the NOWTV box which also has Netflix & terrestrial channels, another lead to the sound system which is near where I sit as I'm rather deaf. It's a fiddle to set it up compared to the long throw types you can fit on a shelf and leave it there

Doobedoo · 31 Dec 2018 at 22:06

Something like this I guess, doubt it’ll be cheap though. http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2018/12/n...ra-short-throw-technology-debuts-at-ces-2019/

keylion · 1 Jan 2019 at 14:32

Quartz said:
They are available, if you have the money. Dell do the S718QL for £4400, for instance.

Thanks for that, I'll take a look Although at that price I think I'm better off waiting. I'm sure more short throw models will become available.

keylion · 1 Jan 2019 at 15:01

Usher said:
Due to how our room is situated I have to put it on a low tripod, it's sound output however is rubbish so I end up with wires going everywhere with a mains power in, a 5mtr HDMI to connect to the NOWTV box which also has Netflix & terrestrial channels, another lead to the sound system which is near where I sit as I'm rather deaf. It's a fiddle to set it up compared to the long throw types you can fit on a shelf and leave it there

Sounds like my setup. The projector just comes out to watch films with the inevitable trip hazard trail of wires back to the AV cabinet.

Scooby-DoobyDoo · 1 Jan 2019 at 19:07

I have a w1080st and have been keeping an eye out. I think benq will be announcing a 4k one soon. I can’t remember where I read it , somewhere on avsforum (USA).

GodAtum · 4 Jan 2019 at 09:12

I'm very surprised there's not a huge gap in the market, a lot of people with 1080p projectors are looking at their TV friends with envy!

Rendog · 8 Jan 2019 at 09:00

Scooby-DoobyDoo said:
I have a w1080st and have been keeping an eye out. I think benq will be announcing a 4k one soon. I can’t remember where I read it , somewhere on avsforum (USA).

This is what I'm waiting for https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/projector/cineprime-home-cinema/w2700.html - especially considering it will support HLG which will be great for those BBC UHD broadcasts.

Discussion on this projector as you say can be found on the avsforum - https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-d...000-usd-msrp/3021904-benq-2700-announced.html

I currently have a BenQ W1070 and pretty sure the W2700 will be it's replacement due to similar throw ratios, can't wait to get it!

Scooby-DoobyDoo · 8 Jan 2019 at 11:53

FerrariEnzo said:
This is what I'm waiting for https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/projector/cineprime-home-cinema/w2700.html - especially considering it will support HLG which will be great for those BBC UHD broadcasts.

Discussion on this projector as you say can be found on the avsforum - https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-d...000-usd-msrp/3021904-benq-2700-announced.html

I currently have a BenQ W1070 and pretty sure the W2700 will be it's replacement due to similar throw ratios, can't wait to get it!

Optoma have a ST now 4.5k though!

https://www.optoma.co.uk/product-details/4k550st

Rendog · 8 Jan 2019 at 18:17

Scooby-DoobyDoo said:
Optoma have a ST now 4.5k though!

https://www.optoma.co.uk/product-details/4k550st

I have seen that one about but crazy prices for it! Not sure if it supports HLG either, that streaming format is important to me because I'm one of the unlucky ones with my 2015 Samsung TV that doesn't support HLG so watching the World Cup last year in UHD had to be done on a roku stick. Even then I wasn't sure if I was getting all the correct colour gamut.

Fingers crossed the BenQ W2700 will tick all the boxes and with a decent price range.

chaparral · 8 Jan 2019 at 18:37

How about this new one LG bringing out
https://www.avforums.com/news/lg-introduce-new-cinebeam-laser-4k-projector-ahead-of-ces-2019.15674

The Korean company is set to unveil its second-generation CineBeam Laser 4K projector (model HU85L)

LG CineBeam Laser 4K can be placed a little more than 2-inches from the wall to project a 90-inch diagonal image. Move to 7-inches away and the projector produces a much larger and still bright 120-inch image.

GodAtum · 27 May 2019 at 22:06

Unfortunately both the Optima 4K550St and BenQ W2700 is rubbish for gaming, with over 50ms and 80ms input lag. I guess the LG HU85L will be similar to the LG HU80KA, which has over 90ms input lag. I won't be playing FPS, but flight sim games.

budge1972 · 27 May 2019 at 22:39

I got fed up of waiting for a decently priced 4k short throw and went the 1080p option with the Viewsonic PX706HD, Its turned out to be a bit of a corker for my living room gaming using Xbox1X/PS4PRO
Highly recommended

https://www.gamingnexus.com/Article/5832/ViewSonic-PX706HD-Gaming-Projector/

GodAtum · 29 May 2019 at 15:24

budge1972 said:
I got fed up of waiting for a decently priced 4k short throw and went the 1080p option with the Viewsonic PX706HD, Its turned out to be a bit of a corker for my living room gaming using Xbox1X/PS4PRO
Highly recommended

https://www.gamingnexus.com/Article/5832/ViewSonic-PX706HD-Gaming-Projector/

I already have a 1080p projector so no need to get a new one.

bignev72 · 19 Jul 2020 at 14:06

Bump.

Are there any decent 4k short throw projectors available on the market in the UK yet that will work for gaming and movies?

I'm moving house soon (hopefully anyway!) and really like the idea of getting a short throw projector for a cinema room

However I would want to use it for gaming and films and the input lag issue mentioned above seems to have killed this idea in terms of gaming

Am I overthinking this? I wouldn't be playing FPS games. It's more likely to be a mix of Switch/PC games such as Mario Kart, Witcher 3, Zelda RDR2 etc. Would the input lag be an issue here?

Pottsey · 19 Jul 2020 at 14:24

bignev72 said:
Bump.

Are there any decent 4k short throw projectors available on the market in the UK yet that will work for gaming and movies?

I'm moving house soon (hopefully anyway!) and really like the idea of getting a short throw projector for a cinema room However I would want to use it for gaming and films and the input lag issue mentioned above seems to have killed this idea in terms of gaming

Am I overthinking this? I wouldn't be playing FPS games. It's more likely to be a mix of Switch/PC games such as Mario Kart, Witcher 3, Zelda RDR2 etc. Would the input lag be an issue here?

https://www.optoma.co.uk/product-details/uhz65ust input lag is ok for most games. Might not be enough for competitive twitch games.

https://www.optoma.co.uk/product-details/uhd30 is more for gaming if the throw range is short enough for you.

bignev72 · 19 Jul 2020 at 15:14

Pottsey said:
https://www.optoma.co.uk/product-details/uhz65ust input lag is ok for most games. Might not be enough for competitive twitch games.

https://www.optoma.co.uk/product-details/uhd30 is more for gaming if the throw range is short enough for you.

I do like the idea of a short throw projector. Will take a look thanks