Made in England

LabR@t · 30 May 2019 at 07:08

Diddums said:
As such a champion of English produce, perhaps an Oxford Dictionary would suit you well.

The goods i brought home fromt supermarket were all purchased with the made in England sticker, proudly in place?
What's your point?

LabR@t · 30 May 2019 at 07:09

theone8181 said:
Will be ironic that all imports will shoot up due to brexit then all the brexiteers will be complaining. (that's my prediction, sorry about mentioning the b word). You can see the cost difference on eBay quite easily, anything from China tends to be cheapest but comes on a slow boat. Pay a premium for UK stuff but have it sooner.

Most stuff from China is rubbish though isn't it, no British safety standard kite marks!

LabR@t · 30 May 2019 at 07:14

It should be made obvious that the product is made in the UK, give people the information and I am sure many would choose to buy British. Much like they by vegan or fairtrade goods.

diamount · 30 May 2019 at 07:34

LabR@t said:
It should be made obvious that the product is made in the UK, give people the information and I am sure many would choose to buy British. Much like they by vegan or fairtrade goods.

British Steel wouldn't over gone under in that case?

dirtychinchilla · 30 May 2019 at 07:41

I looked at the Made in England Doc Martens. For an additional £40 (being generous here as the cheapest Made in England boot is £170), they're just not worth it.

I'd happily buy more stuff made in England, but from what I've seen of English people it's unlikely to be as good quality as the Chinese version for a similar price.

Orionaut · 30 May 2019 at 07:52

LabR@t said:
It should be made obvious that the product is made in the UK, give people the information and I am sure many would choose to buy British. Much like they by vegan or fairtrade goods.

Spending more for goods manufactured locally is likley to save money in the longer term since the cash is circulated within the local economy rather than being exported to a foreign one.

(mechanism similar to Keynesian multiplier perhaps?)

This is the real damage that "EU Workers" cause in places like Scunthorpe. Unlike the local workers, the Poles (Say) send a good part of their earnings back to Poland which sucks the life out of the local economy.

something daft already!! · 30 May 2019 at 07:52

I work for a company which makes things in England. If I say so myself, they are high quality products manufactured to very high standards. However, the products proclaim "Made in the UK", they are made in Eastbourne.

-UnderClocker- · 30 May 2019 at 07:56

10% more expensive? Absolutely! Sadly, British made things tend to be a lot more costly than 10%. More like 30 - 50% more expensive.

LOAM · 30 May 2019 at 08:03

Angilion said:
The effect is the same, since the government doesn't generate money. If the government is using money to pay companies to make and sell products in the UK, that money is coming from the UK and, ultimately, from you (and me and everyone else).

I think I'd be willing to pay the 10% extra on at least some things because I think in the long run I'd be better off doing so. It's better for the economy and it's better for the environment.

Although maybe not for the economy. There's a difference between "made in the UK (by a UK company employing people in the UK" and "made in the UK (by machines owned by a foreign company that employs hardly anyone in the UK)". It's no longer the case that local manufacturing definitely helps that country's economy.

This exactly, there's nothing more needs adding.

Hades · 30 May 2019 at 08:08

Yes I have bought several British made jackets and shoes recently.

I always look for British alternatives as long as they don't cost a huge amount more. I am OK with spending a little more though.

Recently I have absolutely refused to buy apples grown anywhere but Britain. Ut's only a small gesture but if it helps British farmers then I don't see why I would buy similar apples from another country.

datalol-jack · 30 May 2019 at 08:10

Diddums said:
As such a champion of English produce, perhaps an Oxford Dictionary would suit you well.

*Star Wars Cantina Music*

StriderX · 30 May 2019 at 08:10

A country of shop keeps does not simply make things.

We can never by like the us or China which has a huge homogenous market for companies to grow in, any company here is destined to be sold off to foreign buyers.

Food is entirely whatever, it’s something I absolutely need and therefore have little care about fictional ideas of quality, it’s the cheapest every time, don’t care if comes from Israel, Cambodia or Cornwall. I’m not going to buy a £2 pepper because it’s british where the expanded cost is due to synthetic agriculture, **** that.

Half the time it doesn’t even matter where you go for the food, you aren’t ensuring anything when you buy super gourmet **** from Waitrose at 500% expense, it’s the same food as Lidl’s.

The only thing Britain does well is moving money, end of story.

tom_e · 30 May 2019 at 08:16

Efour said:
Does Even the MOD use all British made stuff?

Nope they use whoever puts in the cheapest bid pretty much, IIRC there was grumblings a couple of years ago when they decided to go with Swedish (i think) steel to build some of our kit rather than use British although in that case I think it was simply down to the quality needed.

Raymond Lin · 30 May 2019 at 08:17

I pay more for better quality products, I don’t pay more for where it is made.

I have plenty of UK made clothing, guitar amplifier and general items but quality > "made in" location.

Terminal_Boy · 30 May 2019 at 08:21

LabR@t said:
Most stuff from China is rubbish though isn't it, no British safety standard kite marks!

The Chinese are more than happy to put any compliance marking you want on their goods for an extra Yuan per item. CE, BSI, TuV, FCC etc.

Terminal_Boy · 30 May 2019 at 08:23

tom_e said:
Nope they use whoever puts in the cheapest bid pretty much, IIRC there was grumblings a couple of years ago when they decided to go with Swedish (i think) steel to build some of our kit rather than use British although in that case I think it was simply down to the quality needed.

That would because the quality and reliability of supply for “British” steel has gone done the pan under Indian ownership.

The_Abyss · 30 May 2019 at 08:31

LabR@t said:
It should be made obvious that the product is made in the UK, give people the information and I am sure many would choose to buy British. Much like they by vegan or fairtrade goods.

This is an incredibly naive and simplistic view. What does 'made in the UK' actually mean and how much of the product needs to be made in the UK? Assembled in the UK would be far more accurate for many of the goods 'made' here, as more often than not the component parts or raw materials have been produced elsewhere and imported.

Freakbro · 30 May 2019 at 08:34

The_Abyss said:
This is an incredibly naive and simplistic view.

I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked!

Tone1979 · 30 May 2019 at 08:35

Using the word 'brought' instead of bought instantly makes me think the person talking is of lower intelligence. Generalising here, not aimed at the OP.

It totally depends on the product. Would I pay 10% more for a car built here in the UK? no way. Would I pay 10% more to buy meat from local farms? Sure would and do already but that is because the meat is better due to not being moved about the continent in trucks.

Regarding China, if it wasn't for China we wouldn't have had such a growth in technology over the last 30 years. If it wasn't for the fruit and veg farms of Spain and north Africa, we wouldn't have access to some of the fruit and veg we get all year round.

We are all reliant on a global economy and it's good service. All you have to do is look around your desk (gadgets, toys etc..) or look at what you're eating for dinner to see that.

Yaayuh! · 30 May 2019 at 08:37