17 year old girl allowed to kill herself Legally
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We often are mistaken in our thoughts, to err is human.
Soldato
Yet there are so many people that get professional help and still don't come out the other side. Even big hollywood stars that have everything they could dream of and can afford the best help money can buy, don't always beat mental illness.
Soldato
so anyone and everyone who wants to kill themselves should just be allowed.....because at that moment in time that's what they thought they wanted? it's really not as simple as you say.
Yes it is, unless they are utterly mentally unstable in the sense that they don’t actually know what’s going on, it’s their decision.
It’s not a question of allowance, it’s a question of proving they have something to live for, that’s the only time another person should submit their opinion on the matter. Every other time is a partly selfish endeavour, though as long as you accept that you aren’t just doing it for them, then at least the exchange can be honest.
You cant espouse libertarian/liberal/whatever ideas and deny people their choices.
Soldato
so it's not just as simple as letting everyone who wants to kill themselves just 'have at it' - there's situations where it's not clear cut? that was the purpose of my post, i'm glad we're in agreement.
I think if a successful, polite, well learned man like Anthony Bourdain can off themselves, it’s lamentable, but some people just lose the will to continue.
A lot of the time they just do it, no warning, no chance to fight for them or say goodbye.
People deserve as many chances as possible, and you may not like the idea of giving a facilitation, but it provides one such moment to catch them.
A lot of the time they just do it, no warning, no chance to fight for them or say goodbye.
People deserve as many chances as possible, and you may not like the idea of giving a facilitation, but it provides one such moment to catch them.
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Caporegime
No it's not, it's given by parents.
Agreed.
The law dictates that, not a book.
Not confused but weary.
Agreed but there's a distinction between throwing away and choosing to let something go.
Soldato
Is that reply for me?
Allowed you say? How do you even propose to stop someone who is determined to end their life from doing so?
Caporegime
Wow you must be very religious to "not actually have a clue" what you are talking about.... Lol
I do now find this brilliant that all of this came about from 'FaKeNeWs' and a journalist who was unable to read the source straight... Superb work.
Soldato
Read my post in relation to the one I quoted.
Man of Honour
I don't think anyone seriosly suggests that there should not be robust checks and balances to ensure someone is making a reasoned decision and that they have capacity to make that decision. Decisions such as these should not be made in the moment (although to be fair, many of them are), and any legal process of assisted suicide should take this into consideration.
Soldato
You’d think so and I would agree however the below post I quoted doesn’t seem to think that to be the case.
‘It’s up to them simple as that’ is quite a telling and worrying statement.
Man of Honour
It's an oversimplification of a position, I agree. Few things that are debated this regualrly are simple.
Soldato
Too true. I see this quite a bit now though, there seems to be a want to simplify everything rather than enter into what in this case would be a very difficult debate.