AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Beren]

4 weeks until we start to see what these things do in the wild. It is going to be really interesting to see what total performance looks like in real world testing with fast memory. There is obviously also room in the stack for a 3850x - A higher clocked 8 core when they have built up some stock and to answer the 9900ks when it actually releases.

Also if they stick to the current format this could well mean that there is going to be a 4.8ghz boost TR around Christmas - it will be interesting to see if they now start that stack at 32 cores and go all the way to 64 or if they stop at 48 cores on this gen - either way if this is hard on intel in the desktop AMD are going to muller Intel in HEDT.

 

[Cromulent]

Now I'm hyped for Threadripper and been waiting for the new line for ages. Anyone care to bet on how likely a 64 core Threadripper CPU is?

 

[Kashinoda]

A shame they weren't able to get clocks up really.

From purely a gaming perspective the 3800X makes no sense price wise compared to the 9700K, I guess the 3700X sits nicely between the 9600K and 9700K and is priced accordingly.

The 3600X and 3900X look much more attractive.

Though I assume they've paired their Ryzen chips with 'Infinity Fabric sweet spot' 3733MHz RAM so who knows. They're also using an RTX 2080 rather than 2080 TI (according to PC Gamer) so some of these are likely GPU bottlenecked.

 

[Kashinoda]

Still the productivity gains are huge, especially in the likes of Adobe Premiere.

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[Jamin280672]

RyZen 9 3950X 16 core 32 thread 4.7ghz coming in September.......$749

 

[Beren]

LMAO - Her face in that capture is awesome. You always knew the punchline was coming, and now here it is.

It also means that AMD can absolutely make an 8 core boost to a minimum of 4.7ghz if they choose to.

 

[michty_me]

Memory wise, is everyone still awaiting real life benchmarks?

 

[Jamin280672]

The biggest laugh I had last night was Intel challenging AMD to a real life test, AMD 7nm vs Intel, AMD weren't that far behind with their 12nm lol.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Just as Adoredtv leaked.... oh no, wait, nope

Looks like it’s best to stick RAM 1:1 DF unless pure bandwidth is preferable. But looks promising for sure.

Dis gon b gud!

 

[MaXxBoulton]

Memory wise, is everyone still awaiting real life benchmarks?

Until we see real world stuff all the numbers amd throw about mean nothing.

 

[Jamin280672]

LMAO - Her face in that capture is awesome. You always knew the punchline was coming, and now here it is.

It also means that AMD can absolutely make an 8 core boost to a minimum of 4.7ghz if they choose to.

Pretty sure if they took to TDP up a noch, they could boost to 5ghz, they need to save something for next years 7nm+ though, I think thats when we will see all the faster Zen2's, they'll have a year to refine it.

 

[michty_me]

Until we see real world stuff all the numbers amd throw about mean nothing.

Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks

 

[tamzzy]

• Ryzen 9 3900X—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 70MB cache, 105W TDP, $499 - $41.60/core
• Ryzen 7 3800X—8C/16T, 3.9GHz to 4.5GHz, 36MB cache, 105W TDP, $399 - $49.90/core
• Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329 - $41.10/core
• Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249 - $41.50/core
• Ryzen 5 3600—6C/12T, 3.6GHz to 4.2GHz, 35MB cache, 65W TDP, $199 - $33.20/core

i can see the 16c32t part being ~$750. ie $46/core - if 3800x is the "gamer's choice", hence the elevated asking price...then 16c will be the "halo" part with a higher asking price per core.
i guess i cannot be surprised if the 16c part would be $800 too...if AMD decides to price it the same as the 3800x part...

guess my first speculative analysis was spot on lol

 

[TrixX]

Nicely done @tamzzy I was out by $100 at $650. Good analysis though, I missed it first time round.

 

[KentMan]

That 3800x has to have some decent OC potential in it, or it makes absolutely zero sense to buy, zero. And when you look at the above metric of price per core, it is extremely poor value unless its the one chip that overclocks like an absolute monster. I was set for the 3800x but now im tempted to just go to the 3900x instead.

 

[almoststew1990]

Can someone briefly summarise the big deal about memory? Old Zens "worked with" up to 3200MHz, I take it the 3xxx series will work with faster Ram?

 

[HEADRAT]

RyZen 9 3950X 16 core 32 thread 4.7ghz coming in September.......$749

I am waiting on the 16c to be announced by the end of summer hopefully.

Won't happen.

Oh dear beany_bot, don't buy a lottery ticket this week

 

[ChrisD.]

Anyone care to bet on how likely a 64 core Threadripper CPU is?

I'd say very likely. They follow the RPYC lineup and there will be a 64c/128t EPYC CPU. That said, I'm not sure who in would want 64 cores in a desktop?

 

[NinjaCool]

Just watched a recap of the AMD presentation and it seems they did very good
We went from 12 cores to a 16 core mainstream CPU so fast!!

 

[Relentless81]

5ghz for next year's refresh then, happy days I'll stick with the 2600x until then