** The AMD Navi Thread **

[JediFragger]

Not a chance, done, finito, over. I will focus all my insterest on intel gpu xe ready to be disappointed there also lol

And don’t forget Variable rate shading, so nvidia can continue to degrade visuals

 

[FoxEye]

From what AMD showed (I know I know) it is actually around 10% faster than a 2070 and the same price as the absolute cheapest 2070 so in those terms it's relatively ok. $450 should end up as about £420 so that's almost 15% less than £480, with more performance. I don't see that as a bad deal.

Like I said though they definitely could do more with the cooler.

What about the 5700 non-XT? £360 for 2060 perf... do spare a thought for us mid-range plebs

I mean, I can't even see the point of the non-XT given how close (in pricing) it is to the XT.

And most of us plebs aren't spending £360 anyhow. That's at least £100 too much for my tastes in a mid-range card. Heck I prefer around the £200 mark.

What do you get for £200 these days? A slap on the back and a word of consolation for being poor, is about all

I won't be at all surprised if AMD release a new 480-perf card for £250

 

[Sargatanas2511]

What about the 5700 non-XT? £360 for 2060 perf... do spare a thought for us mid-range plebs

I mean, I can't even see the point of the non-XT given how close (in pricing) it is to the XT.

And most of us plebs aren't spending £360 anyhow. That's at least £100 too much for my tastes in a mid-range card. Heck I prefer around the £200 mark.

What do you get for £200 these days? A slap on the back and a word of consolation for being poor, is about all

I agree with you on the 5700. It really needed to be more like £300 to make any sense. Hopefully it'll come in at around £340 with aftermarket cooling and good overclocking but I have a feeling that won't happen.

 

[Illuminist]

I agree with you on the 5700. It really needed to be more like £300 to make any sense. Hopefully it'll come in at around £340 with aftermarket cooling and good overclocking but I have a feeling that won't happen.

Don't have hope it leads to misery

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Don't have hope it leads to misery

I have a 1080Ti anyway so I am set for this generation, I just like to see competition and if AMD can compete it will benefit everyone.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

I won't be at all surprised if AMD release a new 480-perf card for £250

I thought the 5700 was the replacement for the 480? Whose anus have they pulled this price from?

 

[Martini1991]

I mean, the performance for the price is actually ok, nothing amazing but nothing terrible. The blower cooler is a poor decision though.

If the super stuff happens and the current Nvidia drops $100 then it's bad price for the performance

 

[Sargatanas2511]

If the super stuff happens and the current Nvidia drops $100 then it's bad price for the performance

You're right but calling it poor based on something that MIGHT happen is a bit weird. It's pretty decent as it stands, obviously that's open to change though when/if Nvidia react.

Is there any concrete evidence of what "super" actually is anyway?

 

[Phate]

I am a bit torn. I could get a Vega 56 which would fit my needs, 1440p at 60fps but I think its going to start struggling when looking at the games coming out and shown at this E3.

So the temptation is there to spend 200 more now and be happier with the performance for longer and get a 5700xt.

Will wait for reviews

 

[Illuminist]

If the super stuff happens and the current Nvidia drops $100 then it's bad price for the performance

Thats what i said, nvidia will now drop their current line up, slide in the supers to replace them, probably with a bit of cream on the top, boom, its like amd dont exist.

Imagine nvidia and amd were two hot girls and you were weighing up dating one,

nvidia is the one with the nice clothes and expensive tastes but she also is a gymnast (raytracing)
Amd is the girl wearing a tracksuit with the same expensive tastes but can knit jumpers out of wool

 

[XeNoNF50]

So another GPU launch did bad. Colour me surprised.

 

[Gregster]

Not surprised at the prices and I have been saying this for ages. "AMD are no longer the budget brand" - Lisa Su. I guess a few more people will be going for the next gen console with SSD and 4K 120 fps

 

[Martini1991]

You're right but calling it poor based on something that MIGHT happen is a bit weird. It's pretty decent as it stands, obviously that's open to change though when/if Nvidia react.

Is there any concrete evidence of what "super" actually is anyway?

If we call the 5700Xt and 5700 decent
Then the same must have applied for the 2060 and 2070 as they had no competition at its price point?

They're all crap price

 

[Illuminist]

Not surprised at the prices and I have been saying this for ages. "AMD are no longer the budget brand" - Lisa Su. I guess a few more people will be going for the next gen console with SSD and 4K 120 fps

I would rather buy a 2080ti and then punch my self in the balls repeatedly

 

[Andygully]

Not surprised at the prices and I have been saying this for ages. "AMD are no longer the budget brand" - Lisa Su. I guess a few more people will be going for the next gen console with SSD and 4K 120 fps

I'll take one

 

[Sargatanas2511]

If we call the 5700Xt and 5700 decent
Then the same must have applied for the 2060 and 2070 as they had no competition at its price point?

They're all crap price

The 5700 is not really very decent as it offers little to nothing over the 2060. At least the 5700XT has more performance at less price which makes it a bit of a step forward.

If AMD make Nvidia react by dropping their prices is that not a good thing for people looking at AMD and Nvidia?

 

[Illuminist]

The 5700 is not really very decent as it offers little to nothing over the 2060. At least the 5700XT has more performance at less price which makes it a bit of a step forward.

If AMD make Nvidia react by dropping their prices is that not a good thing for people looking at AMD and Nvidia?

It's a good thing as a whole agreed, if they drop their prices.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

It's a good thing as a whole agreed, if they drop their prices.

If they don't then AMD are actually in a pretty decent position with the XT.

I am not claiming these cards are amazing and a new dawn or anything like that, but the XT is decently positioned against the current competition and I don't really feel it warrants the hate it's gotten. The 5700 is pretty pointless though.

 

[Ross Thomson]

Probably just buy a 580 now.

 

[Illuminist]

Probably just buy a 580 now.

I keep saying it, the best ever bargain is a vega 56, Flash the bios to a 64, its the ultimate price to performance, undervolt it to keep it quiet and then it also boosts higher, beats a 2060 easy