AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Kelt]

Hate to say this but you are over 2 years late, the day they launched the 1800X and Zen architecture they were back. The 9900K you have wouldn't exist if they hadn't

Spot on.

Without AMD, to this day, I believe Intel would still be churning out 4 core mainstream chips, each iteration requiring another new motherboard.

 

[beany_bot]

Im really torn on what to buy. Truth be told I only really game. So dont need bags of cores. But then I have an issue buying the 3800x because it's now "mid-range" even though it could be just as fast as the 3900x in games. As for the 3950x, well that would be fun epeen but for £750 I am well out. Not dropping that on a gaming CPU.

 

[chroniclard]

Will be interesting to see some benchmarks with RAM at say 3200 and ram at higher speeds.

Theoretically I am needing a new board, faster ram and cpu to get the absolute most out of it.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Ah OK. It's Zen 3, which is an important distinction given there was a Zen+. But as to "higher GHz" models, they may not necessarily be as you envision them.

Zen 3 chiplets could push the clocks up as part of the new architecture, or we could see Zen 2 "Black Editions" where AMD take the best binned chiplets and throw TDP out of the window. But I don't think AMD are explicitly sandbagging and holding back higher-clocked Zen 2 parts for release as 4000 series next year; we'll either see 5GHz Zen 2 Black Editions in or before Q1 2020 or 5GHz Zen 3 this time next year.

I see, the naming conventions always seem to change anyway.

But yeah I can see where you're coming from as well. But essentially the chips that leaked to be reaching 5ghz just wont be coming out for now, and will almost definitely be released at a later point.

 

[Murphy]

PBO has been around since Zen+ on mainstream. My 2700X has it enabled right now on an X370 Taichi. Advanced --> AMD CBS --> NBIO Common.

I think you maybe thinking of Precision Boost, that's unless wikichips hasn't updated this entry for a while.

IDK what CBS or NBIO setting do on the X370 Taichi but i don't think they're related to PBO.

 

[Kelt]

Isn't anyone curious why they used a 2080 instead of a 2080 Ti?

They couldn't find one that wasn't artifacting.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@Plec

Movies are about 15% more expensive then their z390 counterparts. PCIe Gen 4.0 is more expensive - main reason and not so much the VRM increase (bulk by they are like $0.5-2.0 each )

Not sure if your after Navi but you'd have to DM me for that

 

[Kelt]

Im really torn on what to buy. Truth be told I only really game. So dont need bags of cores. But then I have an issue buying the 3800x because it's now "mid-range" even though it could be just as fast as the 3900x in games. As for the 3950x, well that would be fun epeen but for £750 I am well out. Not dropping that on a gaming CPU.

In your case I would go for the 12 core, will be fine for years of gaming.

 

[Killer7xx]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/340...aiming-to-topple-intels-gaming-dominance.html

Be interesting to see the performance with these fixes and Intel's latest gimping in place.

When Intel gets that principled technologies company to test it, we'll probably be seeing benchmarks where only 8 cores are active for some bs reason and they'll use the stock cooler whilst using a custom loop with chilled coolant for the 9900KS.

 

[beany_bot]

In your case I would go for the 12 core, will be fine for years of gaming.

Im leaning on the 12 core for sure. But wondering if I should just get the 8 core. I dont stream. hmm. might depend on X570 mobo costs,

P.S. when are we getting prices on the X570 boards?

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Im leaning on the 12 core for sure. But wondering if I should just get the 8 core. I dont stream. hmm. might depend on X570 mobo costs,

P.S. when are we getting prices on the X570 boards?

12 core is more future proofed, so its probably better off going for that.

Though it depends on how often you usually upgrade. If its fairly often, then it might be better to go for a cheaper chip and then upgrade when you need to. However if upgrades are rare, you're better off spending more on a better chip now that'll last much longer

 

[ChrisD.]

I really don't see games maxing 8 cores out for several years at least.

 

[DragonQ]

Any thoughts on what RAM to buy for Ryzen 3? Seems like current prices are:

3200 MT/s @ 16-18-18-36 = ~£80
3400 MT/s @ 16-18-18-36 = ~£90
3200 MT/s @ 14-14-14-31 = ~£135

I'm thinking the middle choice would be best right now.

 

[HeX]

I think you maybe thinking of Precision Boost, that's unless wikichips hasn't updated this entry for a while.

IDK what CBS or NBIO setting do on the X370 Taichi but i don't think they're related to PBO.

Well, if it isn't PBO then someone at ASRock is terrible at naming options

It also most certainly boosts my CPU performance when enabled and gives much higher all core boosts.

 

[beany_bot]

Any thoughts on what RAM to buy for Ryzen 3? Seems like current prices are:

3200 MT/s @ 16-18-18-36 = ~£80
3400 MT/s @ 16-18-18-36 = ~£90
3200 MT/s @ 14-14-14-31 = ~£135

I'm thinking the middle choice would be best right now.

Didnt AMD say 3600Mhz was "optimal" now.

 

[Journey]

Any thoughts on what RAM to buy for Ryzen 3? Seems like current prices are:

3200 MT/s @ 16-18-18-36 = ~£80
3400 MT/s @ 16-18-18-36 = ~£90
3200 MT/s @ 14-14-14-31 = ~£135

I'm thinking the middle choice would be best right now.

Or just go with some Micron E-die 3000MHz 15-16-16 for <£70 and overclock, and fiddle with the timings.

 

[Zeed]

Are the new CPU's worth the extra over ZEN 1 or are you just gaining a few FPS when gaming?

its like asking if nosmo 370z is worth extra over 370gt... Depends on person. for me moving from 1700x to 2700x was worth it so now moving from 2700x to 3900x is worth it.

 

[Zeed]

@DragonQ ii sugest google patriot viper 3733cl17

 

[HeX]

Didnt AMD say 3600Mhz was "optimal" now.

Yeah, slide said 3600 was 'optimal', 3733 is peak and the highest you can go without applying an IF divider.

 

[Zeed]

Im leaning on the 12 core for sure. But wondering if I should just get the 8 core. I dont stream. hmm. might depend on X570 mobo costs,

P.S. when are we getting prices on the X570 boards?

Prime X570-P
159.99$

TUF Gaming X570-Plus
169.99$
(warianty z WIFI mają kosztować 184.99$)

Prime X570-Pro
249,99$

ROG Strix X570-F Gaming
299.99$

ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
329.99$

ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
359.99$

ROG Crosshair VIII Hero Wi-Fi
379.99$

ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
699.99$