Over 75s now pay for TV license

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Having access to television is not a necessity, I don't think the government should be paying for it.
Maybe not, but it's all my Gran had to do when she was at home alone for 80% of the day, what do you propose less abled OAPs do with their day? She read the paper each day, but that didn't take too long. She didn't have the mobility to go out walking around the local parks and would be tired out by the time she got up the hill from the shops.

I have been debating stopping paying for a few years.
I myself dont watch TV. The only person who does, is my wife, and she only ever watches Emmerdale or Corrie last thing at night when she gets the time to sit down, and both of those are not BBC and both of those are not LIVE.

We genuinnely dont need a TV Licence, and the ONLY reason why I have kept on paying it

How are you watching it then? Recording it then watching later? If so, that still counts as requiring a licence.
 

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Easy

Cancel Dr Who (its crap now) The irony is probably makes money.
Cancel Top Gear.... Grand Tour and 5th is better now
Cancel everything to do with BBC 3 delete it from memory along with Radio 3
Cancel all the stuff for young people 13-18 lets be real teenagers look at other websites for info....
Cut back on programs for Diversity.... Sorry why should we cater for the minority more than the majority.

Money saved straight away.

Appalling decision to charge tbh.
 
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The news tells me pensioners are poor, yet at 31 years old I have genuinely never known a pensioner who is short of cash. I'd even go as far to say that most are well off.
I can see why the BBC have removed the free license for over 75s due to a lack of revenue, as the younger generation don't watch live TV anymore.
I bought a license in 2016 when the iPlayer rules changed and used it just a couple of times, so I did not renew.

The BBC really need to drop the whole license nonsense and use advertisements to fund themselves. Whilst I don't agree that over 75s should get it for free anyway, it does highlight that they are now getting desperate for cash.
 
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My aunt will be one of those effected, yes she owns her own home and lives alone with no kids. But she worked her whole life paid into the bbc fund for decades and paid taxes. Where does it stop, it's not exactly value for money is it?
 
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Having access to television is not a necessity, I don't think the government should be paying for it.

For a lot of OAPs it's all they really have. To scrap this is awful in my books.

Pretty cruel thinking

I'm 67, I take home over £1800pm from my pensions after tax. I also do not think that the government should pay my TV license when I reach 75. I am sure that I am not alone in this. For those on minimum pension yes, but not as a blanket benefit.
 
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The news tells me pensioners are poor, yet at 31 years old I have genuinely never known a pensioner who is short of cash. I'd even go as far to say that most are well off.
I can see why the BBC have removed the free license for over 75s due to a lack of revenue, as the younger generation don't watch live TV anymore.
I bought a license in 2016 when the iPlayer rules changed and used it just a couple of times, so I did not renew.

The BBC really need to drop the whole license nonsense and use advertisements to fund themselves. Whilst I don't agree that over 75s should get it for free anyway, it does highlight that they are now getting desperate for cash.

You get extremes at pensioner level as you do at any age.

You will have pensioners who had a interest only mortgage. So now only have the equity in their homes and the initial price still to pay. Care homes are eye wateringly expensive. As is everything else specialist for OAP's. You will also have pensioners who did well and can drive nice cars now their home is paid off and they then invested wisely once the house was paid for.

I believe they need to either make everyone pay for it or nobody at all.

People say we need the BBC but in this day and age I don't think we do. Privatise it and let them pay for themselves with no mandatory fee from the public.
 
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Would you apply the same logic to the NHS? Privatise everything... it worked so well for the railways ;)
Actually it did for a lot of lines. I used to commute to college via British Rail and it was not something that could be relied on for work, it was awful and I would never have considered it long term. I now commute by train (GWR) every day again and the difference is night and day. When I get to the station I see the train in the opposite direction come in like clockwork as I get my ticket and I know I have 3 minutes until my train comes, it reminds me of when I lived in Germany.

In fact the only delays I seem to get are caused by Network Rail or TFL, who owns them again?
 
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Would you apply the same logic to the NHS? Privatise everything... it worked so well for the railways ;)

No, as they are completely different things. The vast majority of people's lives would not be affected if the BBC vanished tomorrow, whereas we'd all feel the loss of the NHS.
 
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Easy

Cancel Dr Who (its crap now) The irony is probably makes money.
Cancel Top Gear.... Grand Tour and 5th is better now
Cancel everything to do with BBC 3 delete it from memory along with Radio 3
Cancel all the stuff for young people 13-18 lets be real teenagers look at other websites for info....
Cut back on programs for Diversity.... Sorry why should we cater for the minority more than the majority.

Money saved straight away.

Appalling decision to charge tbh.

Dr Who and Top Gear are the only things on your list resembling something with an actual budget, and not something that just requires a camera crew and someone behind it.
 
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At some point it will die.
But if it cant (pensions) then what do you do?

It will eventually be rolled into general tax (worst option) or have to go.

As said. It could easily be leaner.
It could die and everyone could then get all the other channels with no faff.

FFS let it die naturally
 
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Why should I have to pay for a TV license while wealthy pensioners get one for free and before anybody goes on the they fought for this country rubbish unless your in your 90's you won't have been old enough.
 
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Government borrowing has increased under the Tories. You need to invest in the country and people. Get productivity up.

What should the government be investing in that it isn't already? Why has borrowing gone up if they aren't spending it on anything?!

Oh, we actually know why, to service debts built up previously.
 
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